Construction Zone
Don\
Welcome! Log In Register

Advanced

Questions about rally cars?

Posted by Jordan Hanley 
john vanlandingham
John Vanlandingham
Professional Moderator
Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA
Join Date: 12/20/2005
Age: Fossilized
Posts: 14,152

Rally Car:
Saab 96 V4



Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 04, 2012 04:47PM
Quote
Gravity Fed
Al, you have to come to race at Idaho so you can... be here racing... In idaho. Faster.

We had a serious talk. I got time off for good behavior and he could swing it but the car has maybe 2 miles on it since the Oregon trails fiasco...Needs 200 trouble free miles, then OK.
So no "together again for the first time" Alperti and John circus.



John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Gravity Fed
Alex Staidle
Mega Moderator
Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp
Join Date: 08/21/2009
Age: Settling Down
Posts: 1,719

Rally Car:
Various Heaps



Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 04, 2012 04:50PM
you can drive 200 miles tonight.



First Rally: 2010 First RallyX: 2004 (a bunch)
Driver (0), Co-Driver (7)
Organizer (3), Volunteer (3)
Cars Built (2.5), Engines Blown (2) Cages Built (0) # of rotations (3.5)
Last Updated, Apr 9, 2023
Please Login or Register to post a reply
fiasco
Andrew Steere
Infallible Moderator
Location: South Central Nude Hamster
Join Date: 12/29/2005
Age: Possibly Wise
Posts: 2,008

Rally Car:
too rich for my blood, share a LeMons car



Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 04, 2012 08:02PM
Quote
Gravity Fed
you can drive 200 miles tonight.

This.



Andrew Steere
Lyndeborough, NH
KB1PJY
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Jordan Hanley
Godlike Moderator
Location: Woodford Halse(inbetween Banbury and Daventry in England)
Join Date: 06/02/2012
Age: Party Animal
Posts: 18


Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 11:27AM
Would a 125cc motorcross be best to start off with or should I go lower?
My dad is going to ask someone he knows if I could use his motorcross bike?
But im not sure if he will as he is busy all the time and tired when he gets home?
He also said that the bike will scare me from the accleration of the bike.
What is the average accleration of a 125cc motorcross bike?
What is the average speed of a 125cc motorcross bike?
Please Login or Register to post a reply
aj_johnson
A.J. Johnson
Ultra Moderator
Location: Pendleton OR
Join Date: 01/07/2011
Age: Settling Down
Posts: 1,381

Rally Car:
88 Audi 80


Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 12:30PM
Quote
Jordan Hanley
Would a 125cc motorcross be best to start off with or should I go lower?
My dad is going to ask someone he knows if I could use his motorcross bike?
But im not sure if he will as he is busy all the time and tired when he gets home?
He also said that the bike will scare me from the accleration of the bike.
What is the average accleration of a 125cc motorcross bike?
What is the average speed of a 125cc motorcross bike?

go find a nice open field to fall down in your first couple of times. It's very easy to get in over your head quickly, so ride within and be aware of your limitations. Last couple yz125's cost me about $800 or so. Something like this, and like John says "bring a stack of 20's"
http://boise.craigslist.org/mcy/3058075434.html
or this
http://boise.craigslist.org/mcy/3050121956.html

If you update your location like you're supposed to we could link to crap in your area

Speed/acceleration be damned. Anything on 2 wheels will toss you on your head.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
john vanlandingham
John Vanlandingham
Professional Moderator
Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA
Join Date: 12/20/2005
Age: Fossilized
Posts: 14,152

Rally Car:
Saab 96 V4



Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 12:50PM
Quote
aj_johnson
Quote
Jordan Hanley
Would a 125cc motorcross be best to start off with or should I go lower?
My dad is going to ask someone he knows if I could use his motorcross bike?
But im not sure if he will as he is busy all the time and tired when he gets home?
He also said that the bike will scare me from the accleration of the bike.
What is the average accleration of a 125cc motorcross bike?
What is the average speed of a 125cc motorcross bike?

go find a nice open field to fall down in your first couple of times. It's very easy to get in over your head quickly, so ride within and be aware of your limitations. Last couple yz125's cost me about $800 or so. Something like this, and like John says "bring a stack of 20's"
http://boise.craigslist.org/mcy/3058075434.html
or this
http://boise.craigslist.org/mcy/3050121956.html

If you update your location like you're supposed to we could link to crap in your area

Speed/acceleration be damned. Anything on 2 wheels will toss you on your head.


Between Banbury and Daventry in the Southern edge of the Midlands.
Norf of London maybe 85 miles up the M40 from where I used to live in W2 in London. Daventry is up about 20 mile to the NE nearer to the M1.

Banbury is home of Prodrive, Daventry was home of SBD, Steve Black Developments who ran Nissan's BRC F2 program and VW's F2 stuff in the 90s, and R&D who made gearkits for gearboxes like the Ford MT75 4x4 box. Also Turbosystems with "Vince" in in Daventry.



John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Jordan Hanley
Godlike Moderator
Location: Woodford Halse(inbetween Banbury and Daventry in England)
Join Date: 06/02/2012
Age: Party Animal
Posts: 18


Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 03:06PM
Is there any motorcross bike shops near me as I cant find any?
I can only find dirt bike tracks.
And theres no websites for the tracks that are near me apart from one near banbury which is where banbury motorcross club goes. The banbury motorcross club website has no email so I cant contact them.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Cosworth
Paulinho Ferreira
Super Moderator
Location: Charlotte, NC
Join Date: 03/15/2007
Age: Midlife Crisis
Posts: 721

Rally Car:
Honda Civic



Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 05:17PM
How funny to find a post about Banbury here. Ironic especially with all this motorsport related talk!

Jordan, there's a rally school over in Silverstone that you can take just to get your feet wet. Then when you turn 18 buy yourself a peugeot 205 or a Saxo for less than a 1000 quid and go have fun.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
john vanlandingham
John Vanlandingham
Professional Moderator
Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA
Join Date: 12/20/2005
Age: Fossilized
Posts: 14,152

Rally Car:
Saab 96 V4



Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 05:37PM
Thanks for speaking up Paulino.

Jordan, go over and meet up with this mook, he's approved full time lunatic, so he's the sorta guy you need to meet.. he's working in the trade doing something more technical than sweeping the floor, talk to him, buy him 4-5 beers, that'll do it. he was over this side for a while, now he's where there's lotsa motorsport.



John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Jordan Hanley
Godlike Moderator
Location: Woodford Halse(inbetween Banbury and Daventry in England)
Join Date: 06/02/2012
Age: Party Animal
Posts: 18


Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 05:40PM
Thanks for the advice but im going to go with the motorcross idea first and eventually move onto rally.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Jordan Hanley
Godlike Moderator
Location: Woodford Halse(inbetween Banbury and Daventry in England)
Join Date: 06/02/2012
Age: Party Animal
Posts: 18


Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 06:31PM
Its going to be a bit hard buying Paulinho some beer even though I might look 18 I need to be 25 for some strange reason.
How do I write a proper CV? Ihave written some before but I want to know how to write a proper one.
What type of work exprience should I try to go for?(work exprience, internship, ect)
I have applied for work exprience at Arden international motorsport(GP3 and GP2 company in banbury) and Fortec motorsport(formula 3 and karting company in Daventry) but they dont reply for ages as thier apprently get emails all the time.
I despertately want to do some work exprience at a motorsport buisness for the summer. Should I and send an email to a different motorsport company as the formula companys are taking forever to reply back I think fortec motorsport took a month to reply to me.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
john vanlandingham
John Vanlandingham
Professional Moderator
Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA
Join Date: 12/20/2005
Age: Fossilized
Posts: 14,152

Rally Car:
Saab 96 V4



Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 07:59PM
Quote
Jordan Hanley
Thanks for the advice but im going to go with the motorcross idea first and eventually move onto rally.

Or enduro. Many of the guys who taught me did enduro first, then motocross, then in retirement back to the woods........then rally.
And oddly enough, that's they way i did it too.

See when you're a Newb at sumpin the thing you need most is LOTS and LOTS of time on the bike/car/books..

And even though enduro isn't going 100% 100% of the time, you're on the bike for HOURS and HOURS during the day rather than say 2 20 minute heats for a Junior...

Also while the moto-cross teaches you to be extremely aggressive with the gas and brakes and mm accurate on your lines, I found when I did my first real stage in what we then called "go for it" mode...now known as "Maximum Attack" from the great Finn Markku Alen---there's now way a miserable car can put up with that level of thrashing....
Now I was lucky cause I had like 20 years on bikes and was at a fairly serious level and had had enough time and age, I knew how to ratchet things down though it was hard to find the balance between what I knew I could do and what my car would accept and I had an inherently very very strong car..

Enduro teaches you a hugely important skill: keep going no matter what.
Somebody crashes 4m in front of you, you swerve around, you don't do like MX goons and drive straight into them and crash..
You come to some slimy rutted hill, you don't go YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! and maybe get crossed up and fall over, you ease up, make a 1/2 second plan and clean the hill even if it cost a half second to get it right..
Flexibility in thinking and flexibility and driving...
It took about 12-14 years to be able to "see' potential "situations" and avoid making big blunders..

Remember my pithy saying? "First, do no stupid"
Crashing is usually stupid...I talk from experience, too. I was an expert at stupid.



John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Dazed_Driver
Banned
Ultra Moderator
Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar
Join Date: 08/24/2007
Posts: 2,154



Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 08:05PM
Just FYI Jordan...

http://www.britishrally.co.uk/index.php?sid=



Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
john vanlandingham
John Vanlandingham
Professional Moderator
Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA
Join Date: 12/20/2005
Age: Fossilized
Posts: 14,152

Rally Car:
Saab 96 V4



Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 09:22PM
Quote
Dazed_Driver
Just FYI Jordan...

http://www.britishrally.co.uk/index.php?sid=

He already got that one. Have to register to even look at the thing. Has those anti-spam blurred words that are stupid. Got answers the screen name, password, email and everything else was "too short"
A great forum.
Probably some Oswald Mosley like Mods..

Thanks tho.eye rolling smiley



John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Dazed_Driver
Banned
Ultra Moderator
Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar
Join Date: 08/24/2007
Posts: 2,154



Re: Questions about rally cars?
June 05, 2012 10:24PM
Good, because once you register, it IS a pretty good forum.

I would say ESPECIALLY for one IN the UK, because of all the MSA and "blue book" things. Apparently they hate THEIR organizing bodies as much as we like bitching about ours. (cue Anders saying something about NASA, lol)



Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Click here to login