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Transmission mount bushings
November 28, 2012 12:11AM
I've been searching high and low and haven't found any home runs hopefully somebody can help me.

I need some bushings to make a few transmission mounts, I'm looking for something relatively small like:

~1.25-1.5" OD
~1.5" tall
~10mm ID

something with solid rubber and metal sleeves inside and out that fits inside standard size tubing.





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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 28, 2012 12:58AM
standard size tubing ID:

1.260" = 32mm
1.334" = 33.9mm
1.5" = 38mm
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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 28, 2012 01:43AM
I'll shoot you a PN in the morning. I'm all crosseyed now---been reading the Canadian Rules Epic Fiasco thread on ,,der SS.com"
That'll make anybody crosseyed



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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 28, 2012 09:40AM
I have been searching turbobricks as well with little to no luck. The only ones I am finding are solid mount and fricking huge. I really like johns design but am aware that the Ford mount will need to be a bit different than the GM. John, can you remember if you had any exhaust clearance issues with your design? is that a 2 1/2 or 3" exhaust on Kevs car? Also did you utilize the existing transmission mount holes in the chassis rail or go through the floor pan? It looks like yours is narrower than the ones on turbobricks.



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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 28, 2012 09:53AM
Pat, 10 seconds on Google with" 1.5" urethane bushing" and this is the first listing

http://www.kmjent.com/cart/universal-pivot-bushing-1.5-od-.5-id-2-l-4-bushing-halves-2-sleeves-red-poly.html
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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 28, 2012 10:49AM
Unfortunately this is for a stage rally car, so urethane won't cut it. Too many times we had bushings of that nature fail halfway through a rally even being brand new. Sean I want something similar to the f250 leaf spring bushings you found that we're using for the engine mounts, just smaller.
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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 28, 2012 12:22PM
I did a quick search on rockauto and came up with a 93 ford ranger leaf spring bushing being 1.25" OD and 2-7/8" long. Makes sense that a smaller truck would use a smaller bushing. It doesnt list the ID, though.

Buy one, cut it in half, and have two bushings for $5.
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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 28, 2012 01:06PM
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Pat, 10 seconds on Google with" 1.5" urethane bushing" and this is the first listing

http://www.kmjent.com/cart/universal-pivot-bushing-1.5-od-.5-id-2-l-4-bushing-halves-2-sleeves-red-poly.html

Fuck that, the Energy Suspension 2 pack is about half that..



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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 28, 2012 01:31PM
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Unfortunately this is for a stage rally car, so urethane won't cut it. Too many times we had bushings of that nature fail halfway through a rally even being brand new. Sean I want something similar to the f250 leaf spring bushings you found that we're using for the engine mounts, just smaller.

Blake, fit is everything in all bushes. As is the quality of the Poly---ie how much did they vaccuum the mold, how much did they compromise it with phoney ass colors.

The bushes I used for 20 years made in San Diego by "The Deuce Factory" happened to be perfect fit for Saab lower A arm bushes for all real Saabs.
Those things I'd make a sleeve---about 2.5mm longer---and those things would last on rally cars more than 20 events... I'd usually replace them cause i was "life-ing" the lower A arm.

The Energy Suspensions bush I now use to get the fit correct I bought thicker wall tube and bored the ID out so it was about .020-.025" smaller than the ID I used with the fantastic--but NLA Deuce Factory bushes.
The bush fit must be a bit of a press or it will wallow around and die.

But all the rubber is synthetic rubber, poly or otherwise...Poly's big claim to fame is it doesn't get eaten by oil, solvents and the dreaded urban air (ozone). That's why more OEM things are some type of poly.

Maybe the stuff you've been using that you've had problems with is crap poly done for popular cars for a quick buck....hard to say.



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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 28, 2012 10:05PM
I have some BMW arm bvushings on my box at work, I will measure them for you. You will have to make a holder though.

BTW, I have those energy suspension bushes in my car on the trans mount, and they have held up fine.
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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 29, 2012 10:50AM
Thanks guys, I think some Honda ones will fit I'll let you know if they do otherwise it'll be those energy ones.
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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 29, 2012 04:02PM
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Pat, 10 seconds on Google with" 1.5" urethane bushing" and this is the first listing

http://www.kmjent.com/cart/universal-pivot-bushing-1.5-od-.5-id-2-l-4-bushing-halves-2-sleeves-red-poly.html

I was mainly talking about overall design, I'll let Blake source the bushings. Most of the stuff people are doing on tbricks is, shall we say, crude. There are a few people building, and selling this mount but they are both solid mount and are closely based to the oe w design. Johns style is vastly different. I can see now that his design just bolts through the floor. Has that been up to the task? Just trying to see where others have had success and complications.

Sean, how'd you go about it on the sport wagon?



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Re: Transmission mount bushings
November 29, 2012 09:13PM
In the Volvo it is pretty crude, but has held up to 4 years now of towing, drifting, burnouts ect. I used those three holes in the tail shaft, made a bracket that the stock mount bolts to.

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