johnhuebbe John Huebbe Elite Moderator Location: St. Peters, MO Join Date: 08/31/2012 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 283 Rally Car: 1970 VW Beetle & 1991 Subaru Legacy |
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NoCoast Grant Hughes Elite Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
Looking at my spreadsheet, I ordered my press in m14 studs and lug nuts from this place.
Here's their 5 pack of M14 thread in ones. http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C13-9518 Mine are still sitting in a box though. Grant Hughes |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Far as I can figg'ah they're abooot $9.98/stud and 3.98 /nut EACH Bugpack--used since 1987 with zero failures---$10/5 pack. Those look nice.... But for that price i want to have steel inserts in the wheels, cylindrical drive sleeves around the base of studs. And a reach-around. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
markhuebbe Mark Huebbe Mega Moderator Location: St. Louis, MO Join Date: 01/29/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 41 Rally Car: 1970 VW Beetle (Historic) |
Thank god for baja buggy parts! http://www.huebberally.com |
Josh Wimpey Josh Wimpey Junior Moderator Location: VA Join Date: 12/27/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 649 Rally Car: Sneak the Golf |
Cheap is $1.39 each ____________________________________________________________- One. Class -- 2WD www.quantumrallysport.com http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Quantum-Rally-Sport/281129179600?ref=nf |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Huh? wha? All confused now..whatchoo suggestin' ? Screw in? What advantage? why? John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Josh Wimpey Josh Wimpey Junior Moderator Location: VA Join Date: 12/27/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 649 Rally Car: Sneak the Golf |
Screw in? Yes. Easy, cheap, easy What advantage? What disadvantage? Never had one fail in 15 years on 6 different cars and I have ripped struts and control arms and tie rods, and stub axles off but never a stud. Easier to re-use too compared to pressed in (and sometimes zapped too). Why? Easy. Cheap. Easy. Reliable. Easy. More reusable. Easy. No welding. Easy. No press needed. Easy. Can carry spare in car and install on side of road. Easy. Did I mention how much easier thread in studs are than press in studs? No drill, no press, no cracks, no welding, no disassembly of hubs, bearings, etc. Easy Got it? ____________________________________________________________- One. Class -- 2WD www.quantumrallysport.com http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Quantum-Rally-Sport/281129179600?ref=nf |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
God has blessed you, my son. I've watched the fiasco of loading a car up after screw in studs that went in easy came out easy.. 1 DNF....certain horrifying death averted by 1/2" I'll stick with "fairly easy"----and dead certain. I like certainty, such a rare commodity. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
modernbeat Jason McDaniel Junior Moderator Location: Dallas, TX Join Date: 12/14/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 401 Rally Car: 1963 SAAB Historic, 1995 Impreza Open Light totaled at WRC Mexico, 2005 STi Pikes Peak winner |
Well, they are sort of expensive. More expensive than ARP. I think they retail for $7-9 per stud. Of course I don't think anyone pays retail. But if you want to economize, I use these that we have made and sell for $3 each. http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info.php?cPath=120_255&products_id=472 Jason McDaniel |
hoche Michel Hoche-Mong Mod Moderator Location: Campbell, CA Join Date: 02/28/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,156 Rally Car: Golf, Golf, RX-3 |
I use the same studs Josh does and have never had them break. Locktite red on the inner thread. Since I always carry spare hubs with studs in them already it may be kind of silly not to use the press-in style, but since the screw-in ones work and they're easy I've just kept using them.
They really only are for cars that originally had lug bolts. I certainly wouldn't convert a press-in to a screw-in. Self-righteous douche canoe |
Pete Pete Remner Infallible Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
You're also talking about cars with magnesium lug nuts. For the lightning round, how much do the bullet tips weigh, and how much does the air in the tire weigh? Extra troll credit for pointing out that the air in the tire is at a much larger radius. Pete Remner Cleveland, Ohio 1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing) 1978 Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. |
Creech Scott Creech Godlike Moderator Location: Jane, MO Join Date: 12/02/2012 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 415 Rally Car: Audi 90 Quattro (WIP) |
I do not agree with everything John has to say - BUT if it is a "Technical Question", I am 95%+ certain that John has the right of it. I cannot think of but one time when I did not land on "John's side" of the Technical Part of any of the debates I have witnessed here in the last couple of years. (since even before I quit lurking) It is sound advice you give John, if a bit cryptic at times. Parfois, on fait pas semblant! I am: I know: I am from: Nobody. Nothing. Nowhere. |
Dazed_Driver Banned Infallible Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
It would depend on the pressure and volume of the tire A better question, has the driver recently taken a shit, piss, or eaten anything? The weight from that, though. Man. Better change to a smaller person. Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
Pete Pete Remner Infallible Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
I'm trying to work up a line of logic that would make it seem that it would be most beneficial to run with the tires flat. Less unsprung, rotating mass you know.
At any rate, we've got another indicator of the difference between someone who actually has to work on things, and who just drives them (in real life or in Gran Turismo, whichever). Bullet nosed studs are the only way to go. GM puts them on damned near everything, M12 and M14, and I have a large collection of salvaged studs from failed hub assemblies. (Free is even cheaper than $1.39 a pop) Hell, I bullet nose the input shaft on every transmission I acquire, just to make installation a throw-it-in affair instead of wasting minutes trying to get it lined up just right. Pete Remner Cleveland, Ohio 1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing) 1978 Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/27/2014 09:34AM by Pete. |
Creech Scott Creech Godlike Moderator Location: Jane, MO Join Date: 12/02/2012 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 415 Rally Car: Audi 90 Quattro (WIP) |
It is why I got a circumcision as well.... Parfois, on fait pas semblant! I am: I know: I am from: Nobody. Nothing. Nowhere. |