Morison Banned Mod Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
Sigh. My point was that it only takes one diff in a car before people start the eternal debate of 'torsen, clutch, weld, open... oh what to do.' There ain't no 'just buy one diff and then get in sit down shut up and go...' without at some level of debate and discussion - ever. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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heymagic Banned Mod Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
What ever blah blah. Its only a debate for those that don't know and listen to others who don't know... Those aren't "car people" they're fan-boyz. What I call "consumeroids" The "debate" occurs among boys who aren't even 1/4 serious... Otherwise there is no debate.. Again, like so much, just depends on who you hang with, what level of understanding they have. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Reamer Jeff Reamer Godlike Moderator Location: Marlette, Michigan Join Date: 08/14/2010 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 489 Rally Car: Subaru |
Ive ran spool,torsion and locker in my oval car. Locker by far the most consitant time after time. You think a locker in the rear would work well in rally awd?
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Mad Matt F Matt Follett Godlike Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 645 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
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Doivi Clarkinen Banned Godlike Moderator Location: the end of the universe Join Date: 02/12/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,432 Rally Car: 1980 Opel Ascona B |
Why would they check for that? Diffs were free in PGT class. |
Pete Pete Remner Mega Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
Really? I would not have expected that. How did it act? Pete Remner Cleveland, Ohio 1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing) 1978 Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. |
heymagic Banned Mod Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
Lockers...I used to get some support from Nismo in the old days. One of them suggested the locker. A little research in a few racing and off road rags set the hook. Welded or tight 'posi' has some bad features. They greatly inhibit a car turning in and tend to push like hell on exit. They also tend to make the back of a car jig around more on uneven surfaces such as ruts.
Detroit locker I went. Fist time on gravel (practice) it bit so quick I drove the car into the inside ditch. A locker under decel allows the car to easily turn in and you simply work the throttle a bit to keep the arc you want. Amazing once you get used to it (doesn't take long) . Noisy as hell on tarmac . I think I had lockers in at least 3 cars of my own, and several of the other Nissan guys went to them. If building a car again I would go that route and none other. Probably not an option for Subes and Mitsus but I'd guess maybe for the Ford and Toy IRS and lots of live axles. Seems like Malcolm Davies went to a solid center diff (eliminator kit)in his Talon(LSD rear) and didn't like it, went back to the vicious coupler. The Chevy tech school used to have a vicious coupler out of an AWD supercharged Blazer. They pulled the rear driveline I believe , not sure why, and went to do burnouts. Factory guys have all the fun...anyhow they lit it off and proceeded to so over heat the coupler that the outside shell split all the way around . Made it a good tool for the classroom.... |
NoCoast Grant Hughes Elite Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
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Morison Banned Mod Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
Diffs were free but final drives and/or drop gears weren't. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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Pete Pete Remner Mega Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
(BufordTJustice) You don't say. (/BufordTJustice) That's exactly the handling problems I've been dealing with. I know it's the diff but if I set it up more loose then there's less grip. Color me sold. Eaton makes a locker for the 8" Ford, which is the rearend I'll probably go with since they are useless to the hotrodders and a 9" would be overkill and a Toyota would be too much screwing around and I'm putting a Ford trans in anyway so the driveshaft will be easier to deal with. (Lockers don't have gears, they have overrunning dog clutches. They act like a spool but allow one side to rotate faster than the diff carrier, so it kind of turns into a one wheel drive spool) Pete Remner Cleveland, Ohio 1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing) 1978 Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/03/2014 12:00PM by Pete. |
Gravity Fed Alex Staidle Senior Moderator Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp Join Date: 08/21/2009 Age: Settling Down Posts: 1,719 Rally Car: Various Heaps |
its like a regular diff, just in foreclosure. First Rally: 2010 First RallyX: 2004 (a bunch) Driver (0), Co-Driver (7) Organizer (3), Volunteer (3) Cars Built (2.5), Engines Blown (2) Cages Built (0) # of rotations (3.5) Last Updated, Apr 9, 2023 |
Reamer Jeff Reamer Godlike Moderator Location: Marlette, Michigan Join Date: 08/14/2010 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 489 Rally Car: Subaru |
The way I think it works. Imagine 2 rachet wrenches one on each wheel. Both are set in faward so when you hit the gas you drive faward. If a tire drags or slips the rachet on that tire is able to go in reverse. Kind of like when you titan a bolt you freely back up but still have grip forward. Not sure if that makes sense but it does in my head! They do make lots of clicking noises on pavement while turning. Just like a big rachet does.
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Morison Banned Mod Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
srsly First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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heymagic Banned Mod Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
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