john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Professional Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
But of course. Back when they were current--it really wasn't "factory" Fords or Portches, it was 'well equipped shop built" for both, and 'course today both are built to crazy spec and artistic perfection . So alles egal, oder was? Hej jason, what can ya tell me about cages round your briar patch? John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Fclevelandwrx Foard Cleveland Professional Moderator Location: Clover South Carolina, USA Join Date: 10/03/2013 Age: Settling Down Posts: 85 Rally Car: 2001 ZX3 |
They both get built now but in all honesty the coolest thing and the thing that held the 911 back most was being air cooled it just didn't allow the car to get enough out of itself.
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Professional Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
If you want to know things often you must not listen to fans and anhängers )which is actually 'trailers' but I like to joke. an auf Deutsch is same as Englisch 'on' and hänger ist from hang--something or somebody in this case who 'hangs-on'= and listen to those who have nothing to gain, they can--if they choose--speak honestly No really it was a typical German thickheadedness. Herr Doktor F Porsche designed the motor--particularly the head und it is darfür perfektes! Mit fantastisches "flow" thanks to very large valves considering the bore size Here you see the problem clearly: ![]() Look at zylinder eins und zwei zu rechts. See the nearly 90o angle zwischen die beide ventilen? Big angle like that meas a large open combustion chamber...to make any compression more than 7:1 you must put on the top of the piston a giant dome. Bad for flame front propagation Look at the combustion chamber: ![]() No attempt even at anything like a quench pad. Bad... And until 4 valve heads finally made it onto German vehicles very typical*... These thing limit what the motor can stand for compression and hot spots and detonation can only be held at bay in a adavance 1920s design like this via lower compression.. And as we all know, there is a direct realtionship between engine volume and torque Here is what was beating them even on clean dry asphalt and much less cylinder volume: That is as good a head made anywhere in the world for 1968---indeed it was basically one bank off a Ford Cosworth F1 V8 motor. Look at the valve angle. around 44.5 to 45o, nice compact combustion chamber, generous quench pads...detonation not a big problem with a head like that and pistons with little bitty domes like these: Ford had Cosworth make the iron block BDA in 1968, the 1800 in 75 and the all alloy BDG in 1976. Little difference to a Duratec head in this decade. Porsches' only option was to increase engine size since they insisted on retaining the archaic head design--as did BMW with their 2 valve junk---and Opel, and Mercedes.. In this history was repeating itself. Just30 years before their solution was 3 valve head VERY SIMILAR in design to the Porsche ideas and it became this: DB601 at 34 liters and alter DB603 at 44.5 liters against Rolls Royce Merlin at 27 liter... Ideed when they finally realised that they were too dogmatic, too rigid, too uncreative to design a good head, the Germans at BMW, Opel and Mercedes all with the Northhapton and paid Cosworth to save their schinken. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
modernbeat Jason McDaniel Infallible Moderator Location: Dallas, TX Join Date: 12/14/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 401 Rally Car: 1963 SAAB Historic, 1995 Impreza Open Light totaled at WRC Mexico, 2005 STi Pikes Peak winner |
What do you want to know? We're completing an unfinished cage in a WRX to be RA legal. Building a new RA Open Class car. Jeff is getting out of it after 100AW this year, so it's likely the last time we'll run the SAAB. We've got one of the guys at the shop trained up and putting in cages now, he's pretty meticulous. The Pikes Peak STi is getting a couple additional bars in the cage and a new engine and gearbox. Jason McDaniel |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Professional Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Well a coupla boys in the Houston area are buying cars at this very moment and want to start building. I dunno fer nuthin who's doing what down there. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
johnhuebbe John Huebbe Mega Moderator Location: St. Peters, MO Join Date: 08/31/2012 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 283 Rally Car: 1970 VW Beetle & 1991 Subaru Legacy |
Is Jeff selling the car? |
modernbeat Jason McDaniel Infallible Moderator Location: Dallas, TX Join Date: 12/14/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 401 Rally Car: 1963 SAAB Historic, 1995 Impreza Open Light totaled at WRC Mexico, 2005 STi Pikes Peak winner |
After this year's 100AW, most likely yes, it will be for sale. Jason McDaniel |
NoCoast Grant Hughes Junior Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
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Chris Sanborn Christopher W. Sanborn Ultra Moderator Location: south boondock NH Join Date: 06/13/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 37 Rally Car: Escort Cosworth ie:the only one that runs! |
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Gravity Fed Alex Staidle Elite Moderator Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp Join Date: 08/21/2009 Age: Settling Down Posts: 1,719 Rally Car: Various Heaps |
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Aaron Luptak Aaron Luptak Elite Moderator Location: SLC Join Date: 02/15/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 776 Rally Car: Civic... |
![]() For a rear-engined car, it seemed extra-appropriate. ![]() ![]() http://www.utahrallygroup.com |