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Richard Miller Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > > I try not to let my dislike of John affect my > postings. I do not call him names. I do not use > profanity towards him. Your pleadings have already been addressed, and are worthless. You DO LIE, you repeat lies, You send slanderous messages to people as we see right here. You are exposed as a backstabbing liar. Don't try to portray yourself as morally or verbally clean. When you lie or repeat lies as you have repeatedly done ( in print--not too bright there, boy) that's worse than "calling names" or "using profanity". I have not liked John since > I first met him many years ago at POR as it was > then known. My wife and I flew to Houghton to > watch the rally. While there, we heard a SAAB > driver needed a crew. That was John. So we gave up > spectating and drove his service truck. John was > most unpleasent from the very first. I almost > followed the suggestion of Tom Grimshaw (look him > up) and locked John's truck up in service with the > keys on top of a tire. But I could not do that to > even John. Where's your story of it costing you $400 to drive from Houghton to service 35 miles South then 55 miles to Copper harbor that you have said you never got back? There's at least two sides to every encounter, and I have said I appreciate that you drove the truck around but!! Miller, you seemed actually retarded. I asked Gillespie if you were "slow" cause I could not get an answer out of you for anything. Blank, blinking stares doesn't answer much so I just figured you had "problems". Your recent behavior reaffirms the earlier impressions > > But today, I object to John and others attacking > primarily Rally America claiming that rules are > made because of some outrageous reason and that > all rally in America is terrible. You idiot. You know if you would READ the answer just above you'd know why the same problems come up again and again. If people like you never concede that there is any need for IMPROVEMENT and indeed, waste years slandering people who suggest there might be ( a typical Republican tactic there Richard, attack any dissenter's Patriotism ! Shame on you, BAD Democrat! Bad!) then there will never be any fundamental improvements. I suggest ways the sport CAN GROW FROM THE BOTTOM. And have since I was around at the very beginning of another sport new to this country and watched how that achieved Nationwide popularity, I watch and GO to events elsewhere and spend LONG HOURS talking to fellow competitors about how they SUSTAIN there higher levels of rally participation. And I suggest ways which might help this sport finally grow. And you say I try to tear down the sport. You pile of shit. And many other > things simply not supported by facts. Vague, too vague, lousy job convincing us. As an > example, feel free to say that you will not come > to Rallye de Paris because I am a terrible rally > master and lay out a boring course. Do not say > that Rally America courses are all terrible > because of stupid safety rules. Hopefully you have > noticed that I never disagree with John on > technical points of car design. He seems to know > something about that. I like his suggestion to > start with a strong chassis that can be modified > over time to become faster and better handling. I > do not like his abusing any one who disagrees with > him in any way. I suppose I could ignore John as > many do. It might keep my blood pressure lower. > Richard Bust an artery for all I care, we'd be quit of your lying and insinuations. You siaid in your poison PM "1)My animosity is not especially towards john, but towards those that are not trying to advance rally. 2)John and others claim to want to take rally back to its roots. Yet they weren't there when performance rally started. 3)Nor are they doing any thing that I can see to advance rally today besides trying to tear down those that do advance rally. 4)Has john every tried to organize an event? Has he even entered an event in the past 20 years? 5)He has sold pieces that he says are low cost and will help others rally. I don't doubt that. But I do doubt john when he claims to have helped hundreds of rallyers get out into the woods. Thn what isd the purpose of running around libeling and slandering me? What do you think I'm doing spending shit-loads of time helping guys and explaining how to do things better stronger faster? Build up Auto-cross? Idiot! 2) You weren't around for the beginning of performance rally either---unless you were in Sweden and finland and France and the UK in the 50s and early 60s. Were you? then shut up. I already asked you if you have EVER been to an event anywhere else in the whole fucking world of any level and got your same DEER STARING INTO THE HEADLIGHTS silence for an answer just like I did when we first met. Do you think we don't NOTICE when you skirt questions? If you mean performance rally in USA in the early-to mid 1970s, no I wasn't. I was from one corner of Europe to the next racing moto-cross for a living. What do that mean? That i don't know what it was like when it was just a gang of guys playing in the dirt? It's still just a gang of guys playing in the dirt. 3) then you are blind Now I want you to answer questions or fuck off and never come back: Have you ever been to any event outside the US? What event, what capacity, who did you speak with? 4) 20 years? How about: 1996 Baie d'Chaleurs National, 1996 Rally Quebec National, 1996 Rally Perce Niege National, 1996 Maine Summer Rally National, 1995 Maine Winter Rally National, 1995 D&N Bank Lake Superior Rally National where we unfortunately met---not POR---memory slipping old man?), 1995 Maine Summer Rally National, 1993 Porter Creek Crossing PNW regional, 1993 Dryad Qwest PNW Regional, 1992 Poerter Creek PNW Regional 1992 Dryad Creek PNW Regional 1991 Tour or the Trees PNW Regional 1991 Twin Peaks Divisional PNW Regional 1991 Sou'wester PNW Regional 1991 Slippery Creek PNW Regional There were others too so how about a nice cup of shut the fuck up with your lame ass insinuations. You want the results? 5) I could put a long list of all the guys who have gotten pistons, rods, motors, cams, valves, close ratio gearsets, exhaust headers, springs , shocks, and a long list of those I've helped weld and assemble and a list of those who I've helped THINK about priorities, a list of those who have gotten all these things yet never entered their cars, but YOU DON'T know any of these names and you don't really care, so why should I bother feeding you, troll? You are attempting to GET YOURSELF BANNED so that you can then cry out SEE! They're oppressing me! I'm being suppressed! and thereby make an equivocation between my getting banned by your friends on SS.com and your getting banned. But we don't do that here, we just scoot you over to a place where you can't harm others. > > > RichardM >A minor correct, POR had already become LSPR when John finished 8th. But Mike >Hurst was ahead of him. smiling smiley Yep, 3rd OA with time 161.25 minutes or 2 hours 21m 15s And I was a miserable 181.71 minutes or 2 hours 41m 42s and as I like to point out when you and your friend Hurst try and discredit that reult all these 13 years later, there was 14 minutes of co-driver induced MTC errors due to wording that was so unclear that just recently it was conceded that it was possible to read the rule on MTC in a silly way, but then it was 1 minute per minute penalty at MTCs so 181.71 minutes minus 14 minutes gives us 167.71 minutes or 2 hours 27m 42s STAGE TIMES. Not too bad for the FIRST TIME in those woods---no hometown advantage there. Not too bad for only SECOND US NATIONAL What was your point of dragging this out again Miller, oh yeah just more immature baiting, well 
So what events have you been to outside North America, who did you speak with, what did you do? John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/04/2008 08:17PM by john vanlandingham. |
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