AW11 MR 2: humor me

To end this thread;

here in the mag are some guys who just won group 2 at Rally Colorado in a mr 2.

So yeah you can do it. Good luck.

-Al

alkun Wrote:
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> here in the mag are some guys who just won group 2
> at Rally Colorado in a mr 2.

He also just took second overall at Paris. His is a Gen 2, whatever that means.

Here's a quote from him from the Colorado forum on specialstage.com:
I went a different route than most. I had a car in the garage and built it. It is a car that nobody at least in North America has ever built for stage rally. It has been a good car so far.

I had to build and fabricate everything for it. It wasn't all that difficult but it was extremely time consuming. It was also expensive in the way of tools. If you have the time and enjoy creating things from scratch then building a car that not many people do is good fun. If you don't have lots of time or the skills to make your own parts then it would be a not so fun time.

It is nice having something different from everyone else but it can also be frustrating. If you happen to brake something on a unique car chances are good no one will have a spare part for you at the race. If you completely destroy a Subaru on stage you have a good chance of building a new car in the pits from borrowed parts.

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Grant Hughes

No one seems to have said anything about the MK1.5 Mr. Deno Plumley made, an AW11 with the SW20's 3S-GTE stuffed in it and a bunch of other goodies.
I know the the Mk1.5 is a track car. But I still think one set up with rally gear would be pretty beastly. And I hear it devours Z06s.

Sounds pretty good on paper.

Just an extremely unrealistic thought. It would be pretty cool to stuff in some form of all wheel drive like the All-Trac Turbo's...

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No in-car experience

I <3 toyotas.

"Ask Jason about the Golf leaping sideways and mowing down the saplings on the side of the road when I went for the 4th to 5th shift at 8000 RPM in 4th...."

Are you referring to that one time on Smith Creek, bouncing off the 5th gear rev limiter, going sideways at 110 coming up to the /BIG CREST! where we had the spectators running; or the time where we were on smith creek and the CV blew up when we were revving ed out in 4th gear doing somewhere between 80 and 90 and any time you lifted the car bucked to the side, then back on the gas and it went 45 degrees the other way?

Man those were fun times.

> Yeah, just think about how fast Cody would be in a
> good car.

I'm hoping to see how fast cody is in the same little car with a semi-decent suspension and maybe do something more with the ecu then just plug in the one he got from the junk yard.

> He should ditch that CRX (not that he
> hasn't already in the literal sense) and buy my
> old Omni turbo which Fling Pu has for sale now.

He should, but times are tough. Maybe Pu would let him run it on a "break it you buy it" policy.

> He would have no trouble dispatching any Subaru
> around here in that car.

And he doesn't have a hard time with it right now as long as the roads are twisty enough. Look at our Oregon Trail times and his Mt. Hood times. At Hood he was driving nearly blind with hardly any lighting and no notes, and skeptical route book delivery.

> The overall win trophies
> would pile up. John Lane would be turning up the
> boost just to try to keep up.

I tell you what, given the scenario of John Lane getting antsy in his panties over Cody driving too fast, I don't know which i'd pick over the other. Either way, it's gunna be a car full of good times.

Karl Wrote:
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> No one seems to have said anything about the MK1.5
> Mr. Deno Plumley made, an AW11 with the SW20's
> 3S-GTE stuffed in it ...

Blah, blah, blah,... dirka, dirka,... gobbledegook... SPEAK ENGLISH, MAN! (Yes, I just shouted.) I have no idea what your secret Toyota fanboy codes mean. Some of here are old farts that don't have the VIN numbers of every Japanese car committed to memory....

"The overall win trophies
> would pile up. John Lane would be turning up the
> boost just to try to keep up."

...ALL the subarus? Yes. Cody is fast. So's Lane, no question.


But so are the Hintz bros...

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Jay Woodward
Snohomish, WA
'90 Mazdog Frankenprotege
Chronologically, 46...

Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
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> Karl Wrote:
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> > No one seems to have said anything about the
> MK1.5
> > Mr. Deno Plumley made, an AW11 with the
> SW20's
> > 3S-GTE stuffed in it ...
>
> Blah, blah, blah,... dirka, dirka,...
> gobbledegook... SPEAK ENGLISH, MAN! (Yes, I
> just shouted.) I have no idea what your secret
> Toyota fanboy codes mean. Some of here are old
> farts that don't have the VIN numbers of every
> Japanese car committed to memory....

You DON'T!!!?????

DOOOOoooooooooOOOOOOODD! What the fuck get with the timesorz , mang!
At least he didn't get all Haichi Kuru on your wrinkley ol' ass, bra!

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

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Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
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> Karl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No one seems to have said anything about the
> MK1.5
> > Mr. Deno Plumley made, an AW11 with the
> SW20's
> > 3S-GTE stuffed in it ...
>
> Blah, blah, blah,... dirka, dirka,...
> gobbledegook... SPEAK ENGLISH, MAN! (Yes, I
> just shouted.) I have no idea what your secret
> Toyota fanboy codes mean. Some of here are old
> farts that don't have the VIN numbers of every
> Japanese car committed to memory....

What he's referring to is putting the 2.0 liter 3s-gte turbo engine from a Celica All-Trac or 2nd+ generation MR2 into a first generation MR2 chassis. It's easy, there's even a welding fixture you can rent to do the job. See the (3SGTE MK1.5 MR2 conversion parts link half way down on the right of the page) http://www.speed-source.net/

It makes for a ridiculously light and powerful car...think of it as a force multiplier on a bad idea

-Tim

The Colorado gen 2 has a V6 from a Lexus in it and runs Megasquirt.

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Grant Hughes

And you can drop a supercharged 3.8 into a Fiero. You can also bungee jump, wear a pink shirt into a biker bar and wear a sheet to the prez inauguration...doesn't mean you should.

The thing that I find funny about this is that if a driver does well in a car that does not follow the established orthodoxy, then the talk is all "imagine what he could do in a real car" and totally ignores that a driver's skill may be suited to some aspect of his odd-ball car.

tipo158 Wrote:
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> The thing that I find funny about this is that if
> a driver does well in a car that does not follow
> the established orthodoxy, then the talk is all
> "imagine what he could do in a real car" and
> totally ignores that a driver's skill may be
> suited to some aspect of his odd-ball car.
>
What a load of bollocks.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

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is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Nah, I think Alan hit on a major part of the equation earlier, when he mentioned Foster's being faster in the GTX than the Evo... the oddball aspect of the oddball car that the driver is suited to, is the (comparative) lack of expense in the oddball car, thus the increased willingness to drive it oddballs out.

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Jay Woodward
Snohomish, WA
'90 Mazdog Frankenprotege
Chronologically, 46...

Jay Wrote:
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> Nah, I think Alan hit on a major part of the
> equation earlier, when he mentioned Foster's being
> faster in the GTX than the Evo... the oddball
> aspect of the oddball car that the driver is
> suited to, is the (comparative) lack of expense in
> the oddball car, thus the increased willingness to
> drive it oddballs out.

That I agree with but the fantasy "what if some guy is built like an ape who was smacked on the head and his eyes spin around like in cartoons, and he gets in some Italian whack-job car that pirouettes at 35 mph and that happens to be the speed his eyeballs twirl around but the other way so he's in sync" sorta thing is just fundamentally silly.

And again considering the 2 "fastest" guys in the country cab barely break the top 50 in a club level event in Scotland, sorta seems silly to claim some wierd ass car is "suitable" because some palooka did some 2wd win in some podunk event here.

There's a solid reason why I push Volvo 240s: there is an average of 10-11 in the Lynwood Pull-a-part and an average of 7-8 in Tacoma.

Number of TR7s in the last 8 years at these two yards=1
Number of MkII Mr2s= ZERO
Number of GTXs= ZERO

Carollas are now very rare, Xratties are all behind people's houses---and one putz has about 250 in Eastern Oregon---

When you're are afraid to wad it, you drive differently.

Ross was no fool.
>
> Jay Woodward
> Snohomish, WA
> '90 Mazdog Frankenprotege
> Chronologically, 40...

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.