NoCoast Grant Hughes Senior Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
RS&SP are gusseted like crazy from what I've seen. No clue about Ohlins or Proflex. But watch enough WRC and you'll see people damaging struts. Troy has been trying to get Mitch to switch for years now. They'll probably go with RS&SP like the rest. Ron is thinking about the Hot Bits stuff for the Evo. He has three DMS still but he loaned Mark a rear for some reason back in 2006. I dropped it off to Checkpoint/Salta where his car was at at the time and it's never been seen since. Anybody got a spare Evo 7 RS rear DMS strut laying around? ![]() Thing is, people that spend over $5k on stuff aren't usually the people posting pictures of that shit broken. Heaven forbid if their wife finds out... Speaking of, how's that transfer case? |
KTurner Kevin Turner Senior Moderator Location: Newark, DE Join Date: 01/27/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 364 Rally Car: 2wd Impreza... dude you should do an sti swap |
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DaveK Dave Kern Junior Moderator Location: Centennial Join Date: 07/11/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 1,085 Rally Car: Compact M3 & Evo IX |
Here's a good shot of Evo fronts - AST road race stuff in black, Ohlins in dirt: ![]() Damaged AST (were used so cost less than $5k, so I figure its ok to post pictures): ![]() Rest of the car: ![]() Tire: ![]()
Dropping the car off on Friday to get the t-case pulled. Sounds like there's a chance it could just be a tube thingy that snapped, but will have to wait till it goes back to ShepTrans to get the final word. Dave |
Ian S Ian Seppanen Junior Moderator Location: Esko, MN Join Date: 10/19/2011 Age: Settling Down Posts: 149 Rally Car: 1991 Nissan 240SX |
I know Carl Siegler goobered his RS&SP when he tumbled at Rally MN. I dont know what he ran at LSPR, as he was having issues getting a hold of anyone at RS&SP. And no one had parts. |
Doivi Clarkinen Banned Professional Moderator Location: the end of the universe Join Date: 02/12/2006 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,432 Rally Car: 1980 Opel Ascona B |
Yeah, don't even get me started. As many of you know I was the original DMS importer. You know that warranty that comes with the DMS suspension you pay thousands of dollars for? Go ahead and throw it out or use it to line the bottom of the birdcage or whatever. It don't mean shit. Jamie Drummond honestly thinks his shit don't stink. I had cases where there was an obvious design or welding flaw and he wouldn't stand behind his product. All he had to do was replace a housing but instead he would insist it was the customers fault. I'm not talking damage from big car breaking impacts that would break anybody's shock like you picture above but weld failures in normal operation. And then there were the all the issues with the 40 mm street shocks. Covering his ass on those put me in a lot of debt and look where it got me. Biggest mistake I ever made was getting involved with DMS. There is a way to gusset those DMS strut brackets so they won't be so prone to twisting and tearing off, btw. Not that I could ever get DMS to do them that way from the factory.... |
Do It Sidewayz Chris Martin Godlike Moderator Location: Toronto, Ontario Join Date: 01/15/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 567 Rally Car: E-85 powered Impreza |
The destruction pics really show how those things are made.
On the surface you see good thick ears, but at the end of the day you see a thin sheet metal type piece that wraps around the tube and a little bit thicker box inside there. Really looks like they do this for ease of manufacturing. Slide the "sheet metal" piece up the tube to the right height, and buzz it on, then slip the "box" inside and weld it. Only thing really holding the "meat" of the ears to the tube is the ~1" worth of weld top and bottom, and then a couple of "plug" welds.. The first strut shown in the photos looks like the owner tried to add some reinforcement, too bad it was in the wrong spot. 2 pieces of approx 1.5" x 1.5" 3/16" thick steel plate on each strut would go a very long way. "cap" the ears top and bottom. http://www.rallispec.com/rssp_gallery_1.htm |
alkun Albert Kun Ultra Moderator Location: SF Ca. Join Date: 01/07/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,732 Rally Car: volvo 242 |
Ding ding ding! give the boy a prize! The way those things are put together is phoney, thats all there is to it. that wrap around taco shell thingy should be 3 times thicker and the "box" should be welded all the way around to the tube underneath it. But in my Murphie's law view of things; all parts fail, its justs a matter of when. |
Cosworth Paulinho Ferreira Super Moderator Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: 03/15/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 721 Rally Car: Honda Civic |
Sad but there's a lot of companies that continue staying in business just like that on behalf of good people that little to nothing have to gain. Sorry about your situation. |
alkun Albert Kun Ultra Moderator Location: SF Ca. Join Date: 01/07/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,732 Rally Car: volvo 242 |
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Carl S Carl Seidel Super Moderator Location: Fe Mtn, MI Join Date: 02/10/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 765 Rally Car: 1993 honderp |
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Ian S Ian Seppanen Junior Moderator Location: Esko, MN Join Date: 10/19/2011 Age: Settling Down Posts: 149 Rally Car: 1991 Nissan 240SX |
I was researching my suspension options a few weeks ago, and every RSSP dealer was either no longer a dealer, or hadn't seen a shipment in a long time. I am kind of curious what is going on with them. |
Carl S Carl Seidel Super Moderator Location: Fe Mtn, MI Join Date: 02/10/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 765 Rally Car: 1993 honderp |
Rallispec isnt RS&SP. Rallispec is a NJ-based rally shop, I think they're the only "authorized" RS&SP dealer in the USA. RS&SP is Argentinean. I like RS&SP's stuff, but way too pricey for me. I'm not a fan of Rallispec. |
Jon Burke Jon Burke Godlike Moderator Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: 01/03/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,402 Rally Car: Subaru w/<1000 crashes |
these are 40mm, but maybe contact them and see if they have 50mm?
http://www.compbrake.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=544&catId=0 |
Ian S Ian Seppanen Junior Moderator Location: Esko, MN Join Date: 10/19/2011 Age: Settling Down Posts: 149 Rally Car: 1991 Nissan 240SX |
Oops, my mistake. Alls I know is, Carl wasn't the only one having issues. There were a couple of threads on NASOIC about people having issues with stuff. But I digress. |
KTurner Kevin Turner Senior Moderator Location: Newark, DE Join Date: 01/27/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 364 Rally Car: 2wd Impreza... dude you should do an sti swap |
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