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Re: Ridiculous Brake Photos for John
March 17, 2008 10:21AM
Jay how many wheel bearings have you had to replace in your Protege?

How many times did we do wheel bearings in your GTX's?



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Re: Ridiculous Brake Photos for John
March 17, 2008 11:32AM
Protege wheelbearings replaced, both cars, over the course of 4 years: 0
GTX wheelbearings replaced, one car, over the course of 7 years: 8 or 10. Dunno for sure. Trying hard to forget.



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Re: Ridiculous Brake Photos for John
March 17, 2008 11:52AM
Jay Wrote:
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> Protege wheelbearings replaced, both cars, over
> the course of 4 years: 0
> GTX wheelbearings replaced, one car, over the
> course of 7 years: 8 or 10. Dunno for sure. Trying
> hard to forget.
>
> Jay Woodward
> Snohomish, WA
> '90 Mazdog Frankenprotege
> Chronologically, 40...

Awwww, but I'm just starting to get good at it I did a full set of 4 over the weekend. It wasn't as horrible as people make it out to be when you have a lathe right there to make new spacers. Your point is well taken though. Were you kill only the fronts or was it evenly distributed?

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Re: Ridiculous Brake Photos for John
March 17, 2008 12:13PM
More fronts than rears, but the rears got jealous occasionally and demanded attention sometimes as well. Seems to me the number of failures was reduced by ignoring what the service manual tells you to do, and ram that axle nut down with an impact wrench (once you're sure the spacer is correct). ymmv. Like I said, I'm trying to forget...



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Re: Ridiculous Brake Photos for John
March 17, 2008 01:34PM
Tim I bring it up not to be disparaging, but to help ya see that when it happens you have a path toward making a real improvement that will hopefully be the end of the failures.



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Re: Ridiculous Brake Photos for John
March 17, 2008 02:06PM
JohnLane Wrote:
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> Tim I bring it up not to be disparaging, but to
> help ya see that when it happens you have a path
> toward making a real improvement that will
> hopefully be the end of the failures.
>
> JohnLane
>
> Overkill is consistently more fun


Don't worry John. I take no offense at your comments in fact I appreciate them. None of my up front research into upgrading the brakes showed any problem with the bearings. Just a lot of people annoyed with the shim preload design. I've only had the car for about a year and I'm slowly rebuilding/upgrading it from it's crashed state. For the most part I make these parts because it entertains me. If the bearings start to be a problem I'll likely make a switch. For right now I just need to connect the dots between the ears and the caliper:


And for Paddy,

Stock stud, 5C collet, and a Hardinge depth stop:


Then if you want to do them fast you pop it into a Hardinge HC with all three tools already loaded on the turret:

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Re: Ridiculous Brake Photos for John
March 17, 2008 02:25PM
Do you think there is enough meat on those 10.75 x .81 rotors to shave them down to 10 or 10.25?



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Re: Ridiculous Brake Photos for John
March 17, 2008 02:36PM
Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> Do you think there is enough meat on those 10.75 x
> .81 rotors to shave them down to 10 or 10.25?
>
> Feisty Peacock?

That depends on your caliper and top hat but my gut reaction is no. I have very little clearance on the rear between the top hat and the caliper with the brake pads already on the edge of the rotor. I also do not recommend backing yourself into a corner with custom rotors. I'm fine with making non wear items custom but I like my rotors to be stock off the shelf items.

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Re: Ridiculous Brake Photos for John
March 17, 2008 04:31PM
The Caliper bracket might end up looking something like this....

I'm excited to see how your's turns out...



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Re: Ridiculous Brake Photos for John
March 17, 2008 04:53PM
Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> Do you think there is enough meat on those 10.75 x
> .81 rotors to shave them down to 10 or 10.25?
>
> Feisty Peacock?

Tim the INNER diameter has to be considered or the pad ends up over hanging---that's why that Coleman rotor was chosen when I did the Capri brakes:



You can see that reducing the OD of the disc can be done because the bolt circle is smaller so there's more ID meat.
You can see a simple disc with the disc bolt circle and the hub bolt circle and you'd be in business., and you can vary the plate thickness to tune where the caliper should sit.





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