mellow65 Oliver Klozoff Infallible Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
yeah i know you can build them to make some good power. they are just such a voodoo art to me. how they make a spiral graph give you power is just beyond me. not really i get how they work, they just are a crazy beast. i'm going piston motor with mine, i know all sacrilegious, but light weight ubber reliable 4 bangers is where the fun is for me. no high strung about to tare it's self apart motors for me. "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |
Pete Pete Remner Ultra Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
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mellow65 Oliver Klozoff Infallible Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
hence my wanting to go a different path "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Infallible Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Considering the tach shows geared UP speed not rotor speed, the torque they make at low ROTOR speeds is pretty impressive What's the gearing? 3 times so rotors going 1/3 what the tack shows... Pretty good. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2010 12:17PM by john vanlandingham. |
Ascona73 Bob Legere Godlike Moderator Location: Spofford, NH Join Date: 03/07/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 308 Rally Car: 1971 Opel Ascona |
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mellow65 Oliver Klozoff Infallible Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
from all my searching around i never found a 8" in a 2wd truck other then behind the v6s. i did read some random blips about the once in a while fluke of the older 2wd 4 cyl trucks getting a 8" verses a 7.5". maybe with a suspension package or something. but if it's truly a 4 cyl 3rd member then the supra LSD swap doesn't work. the v6s had a larger carrier bearings than the 4cyl diff. so the bearing combo that you need wont work. to do it right you use a fat supra bearing on one side and a skinny truck bearing on the other. makes the back lash adjuster fit better on one side. http://www.gearinstalls.com/supralsd3.htm "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |
RallyTaco Chris Lanctot Elite Moderator Location: Livonia, MI Join Date: 03/15/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 107 Rally Car: just a wannabe |
Some reference info: http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/diffs/
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Ascona73 Bob Legere Godlike Moderator Location: Spofford, NH Join Date: 03/07/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 308 Rally Car: 1971 Opel Ascona |
I got three of the 2wd 8" rears out of a wrecking yard, all 22R-powered 4-speed trucks. I got a 7.5" rear out of a 5-speed 22R powered truck on the same day. I noticed that all the 4-speed trucks were 'stripper' models with no power steering and vinyl seats/etc. My father's company had three 22R-powered Toyota trucks ('87's and '88's), and the same thing seemed to hold true....4 speeds had the 8", while 5-speeds had the 7.5". My own '87 5-speed had power steering and the 7.5" rear axle. I broke that axle thanks to the roll-pin shearing (might have been from the supercharger!) and the cross-shaft slipping out and wiping the ring gear out. I put an 8" rear axle into that truck afterwards (custom length driveshaft required). Never had an issue with that axle... |
mellow65 Oliver Klozoff Infallible Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
crazy, learn something new every day. although i can tell you from crap i have sitting in my garage that from a sameish year 2wd and 4x4 8" the 4x4 is still wider. and the main reason i had to go with it for my project. the 2wd was to narrow for my brackets to fit and still get some bolts to hold the axles in. "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |
Pete Pete Remner Ultra Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
Kick. Ass. '86-95 is within 1/4" of the right width assuming 2wd and 4wd are the same widths. Thanks Chris! |
mellow65 Oliver Klozoff Infallible Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
man apparently people totally missed me posting that on page one, and take a look one post up from yours about the 2wd/4x4=not the same width. "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |
Pete Pete Remner Ultra Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
I still don't see it... i see stuff about 1st generation / 2nd generation (isn't that stuff from the 1950s?) and I don't really know Toyotas too much so this makes no sense to me. Too many 2-stroke fumes or something. "Find a pre -'95 V6 two-by", that's something I can wrap my head around. I found one only 170 miles from me for something like $125, might pick it up next month if it's still around. I had some bids going on eBay that I forgot about. On the plus side, I have a sidedraft manifold for a VW 8v now, and some nice 48mm throttle bodies to go with it. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/26/2010 01:38PM by Pete. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Infallible Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
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Pete Pete Remner Ultra Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
Should be fun with those 13:1 pistons I picked up earlier this month. Cam selection comes next. |
mellow65 Oliver Klozoff Infallible Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
the 2wd axles are not the same width as the 4x4. the 2wd are about 1.75-2" narrower from what i have found. both the 2wd and 4x4 were from the same early 90s that i measured. it may not seem like much, but it was the difference of working or not for me. "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |