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VW Golf rally porn
March 18, 2013 10:27PM
oh baby, oh baby fap fap fap




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Re: VW Golf rally porn
March 18, 2013 10:55PM
There is so much aluminum there. You would never bend that upright! That's also a very pricey block of billet to start from.
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Re: VW Golf rally porn
March 18, 2013 11:10PM
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There is so much aluminum there. You would never bend that upright! That's also a very pricey block of billet to start from.

2800 Euro for the pair

I tell guys "Ya knoez, maybe we can't always drive like we see hero cars on the TV driving....they have different stuffs than we do"



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Re: VW Golf rally porn
March 19, 2013 10:49AM
One of these days I'd want to just build some crazy car. Mod the shock towers and tubs and put extra long dampers for mega travel, super wide track/body and spend all this time/money but then I wouldn't want to drive the car because I spent to much time/money on it.

At least other people who have metric tons more cash than I do put pretty pictures on the internet for me.
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Re: VW Golf rally porn
March 19, 2013 02:24PM
makes me wish i could machine stuff



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Re: VW Golf rally porn
March 19, 2013 04:50PM
Billy lets make some for the Hondas. Maybe John would stop whoring the internetz and make us some fancy uprights like that to slap on some struts. I'm guessing it could be made for less than 500 bux plus the big ass bearing and steel king pin. Ai John?
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March 19, 2013 05:23PM
All looks a bit too shiny to me.
At the end of the day is it not all just about geometry, and for all that expensive kit the only thing that really matters are the points where it connects to the bottom balljoint, steering track rod end, and the strut to give the desired geometry.
With a bit of thought and application one could probably make tweaks to the standard knuckles and achieve the same thing.
Bling and expensive is not going to save rallying......



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March 19, 2013 05:41PM
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At the end of the day is it not all just about geometry, and for all that expensive kit the only thing that really matters are the points where it connects to the bottom balljoint, steering track rod end, and the strut to give the desired geometry.
Wrong... not all about geometry. Hub bearing deflection is the biz. You obviously never pushed hard enough through some rough stuff only to find no brakes afterwards.

Geometry is great but its not altered by much at the upright (roll center at king pin), but mostly inboard (20mm by GrA rules), what really matters is the stability of the hub at full fledge no lifts through rough areas.
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Re: VW Golf rally porn
March 19, 2013 06:04PM
Dude, everyone knows shiny = faster.

Why do you think they make chrome 24"s?



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Re: VW Golf rally porn
March 19, 2013 06:29PM
I like how they are offsided and you just bolt the steering arm connection to whichever side is needed, then the caliper carrier to the opposite side.
Wonder what alloy they used.



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Re: VW Golf rally porn
March 19, 2013 06:51PM
2800 EURO.....I'm sure I'd figure out a way to break them....



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March 19, 2013 07:15PM
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Wrong... not all about geometry. Hub bearing deflection is the biz. You obviously never pushed hard enough through some rough stuff only to find no brakes afterwards.

Fair enough regarding deflection in certain circumstances. But can't see the need to be quite so pointed regarding pad knock off and whether or not I have dealt with it thanks.
I may not have because I have already upgraded the uprights on my cars from the standard fitment type and the inherent safe for public use understeering characteristic geometry they gave.
I did this because the OEM geometry was shit when I measured it up. So I applied myself to look for options and proceeded to address this, and at the same time wide tracked my car and also got better brake options, a stronger upright, larger wheel bearing, and a stronger drive flange and outer CV....

We all play at different levels and I am pretty sure 90 odd percent of competition cars around the world compete without several thousand dollars worth of bespoke alloy bolted on each corner, and of course spare replacments hanging in the service van should they get damaged.
That bespoke alloy upright is pretty much the 3rd evolution of the VW works type and they managed with the OEM hub for a while so I am sure it will suffice for me.

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Geometry is great but its not altered by much at the upright (roll center at king pin), but mostly inboard (20mm by GrA rules), what really matters is the stability of the hub at full fledge no lifts through rough areas.

And a few mm here and there is also enough to put the tracking a mile out, but inversely it's also enough to cure bump steer and add castor or camber which all help to improve a setup without going bespoke with the huge cost that incurs.



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Re: VW Golf rally porn
March 19, 2013 10:43PM
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Billy lets make some for the Hondas. Maybe John would stop whoring the internetz and make us some fancy uprights like that to slap on some struts. I'm guessing it could be made for less than 500 bux plus the big ass bearing and steel king pin. Ai John?

Just call up and order them from the Honda dealer..grinning smiley
Where you been, pendejo?eye rolling smiley

And what bearing anyway? The Ford Transit casset type (which some use as substitute in Ford's equally gnarly old 90s GpA knuckles... Where'z wheeeze gonna get Transit wheelbearings?confused smiley



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March 20, 2013 10:24AM
Point with re-engineering the car... what's the point? Cody shows that you stick a mediocre motor (stock B16) with a stock trans (B16) and put it in a light car and you can kick ass.

If someone wanted to give me the money to build one, I would gladly build it. Pretty much K24 swap (2.4L, 200+ WHP), 6 speed close ratio either syncro or Dogbox, go hog wild and redo wheel tubs/suspension pick ups (similar to Burmeister's Mazdaspeed3) to swap over to a rear subaru link style setup and front suspension. Custom axles to match inner Honda splines to outer Subaru CV/Splines and added length needed for wider track. Custom suspension arms to widen the track which will allow more wheel travel and droop with the same axle angle range. Running an STi hub assembly would be the best because the hub comes out of the knuckles as an assembly with 4 bolts from the back for easy repair in services. OEM designs for the knuckles just becomes a remove and replace as a prognostic service so you're replacing them before they break/flex bad. A lot cheaper than some several thousand dollar knuckle like the one here. But at that point, might as well just get the WRC standard sequential box and mate it up to the K series and give the car 4WD...

I mean the rules allow all that but it doesn't mean we need to do it?
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March 20, 2013 02:24PM
After thinking about this some more through the night it dawned on me that using my ingenuity and making my car work on the cheap is a complete waste of time and effort.
So I woke up this morning and I was just about to buy those bling bespoke uprights when I realised the weight of them is a real hinderance to the performance enhancement they are meant to give.
That being the case I decided that full house carbon fibre uprights are pretty much the only way to go for the low level of fun I take from rallying.
So I cashed in my lifetime savings and ordered these babies.


Once I had completed the order I realised I would have to up my game and went out for a run to improve my fitness and hone my reaction time and coordination.
Halfway through my run I was a little out of breath due to the constraints of my genetic makeup and the effects of 40 odd years lifestyle choices and the ravages they have made on my body.
Of course my performance behind the wheel of a car is based not only on the vehicle capabilities but also by my own psycological boundaries I live by which determine the level of which I want to risk life and limb. This is a problem and will hold me back so I have decided to re-evalute this constraint and now believe the only way to reach that new physical level is to rid myself of the shackles and chains of my own human biological makeup. On return from my run I felt the replacement of the flesh and bone limbs that could get damaged in an accident was a good plan. So I fired up the chainsaw and cut off my legs and arms, the last arm was awkward because holding the saw became tricky. I got back on the phone to the carbon fibre upright company and ordered 4 bespoke replacement carbon limbs which I specced up to include laminated titanium "bones" as it seemed crazy not to add them now when I may find out a few months down the line I need to upgrade again. I am now hoping that when these new limbs arrive I should be physically in the zone. Looking at the psycho end of things now and believe a brain transplant from someone who is really good at driving is probably the next modification I need to be looking at to make the grade on the gravel......



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