john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
This is what I was doing :performance suspension:
JVAB Sooper Bitchin 50mm Bilstein struts for Kevin Hawkinson, Seattle; Alex Buchka, Cape Cod; Houston Peschl, Alberta and Ian Topping, Michigan: And here's Kevvie and I shoving it into his willing car: Jeeeezuz look at the size of the thing! And there's the reason for the offset mount---tire to spring clearance when you actually have springs that have enough spring travel to match the strut travel---something most here don't bother with. And here's the thing which makes it even Sooper Bitchiner: this patented "weldy thang" making the Volvo fixed tube into a removable strut making service a snap and spring changes easy. Now the point of this isn't to ply my wares, the purpose is to try and edji-cates you malooks into understanding what really serious suspension looks like when you're paying serious money. It's just too cool and we's wanted to share. BLING! John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Dazed_Driver Banned Mega Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
What you should ALSO educate us on is what-in-the-hell is a malook!
Those gusset thingys are posing a problem... Ich habe nicht ... erm... schteel? so yeah. Do you know where I might be able to find some? Is 3/32 too random for a hardware store, hobby shop, back alley? Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
Doivi Clarkinen Banned Mod Moderator Location: the end of the universe Join Date: 02/12/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,432 Rally Car: 1980 Opel Ascona B |
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NoCoast Grant Hughes Mod Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
Looks good!
The offset idea would work good on the front of Merkur stuff too. Then we could run wheels off Escort Cossies, since all the used Compomotives from those always seem to be 15X7 with et 35 or 40 and that size needs a whopping 1" spacer to get the tire away from the spring seat. I solved it by buying 4 new 15X6 et 25 which effectively moves the inside about 1" further outward. I suppose on the offset though we'd have to either sacrafice travel or ride height so maybe the better offset wheels is the way to go. Grant Hughes |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
NoCoast Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Looks good! > > The offset idea would work good on the front of > Merkur stuff too. Then we could run wheels off > Escort Cossies, since all the used Compomotives > from those always seem to be 15X7 with et 35 or 40 > and that size needs a whopping 1" spacer to get > the tire away from the spring seat. I solved it > by buying 4 new 15X6 et 25 which effectively moves > the inside about 1" further outward. I suppose on > the offset though we'd have to either sacrafice > travel or ride height so maybe the better offset > wheels is the way to go. Grant, don't think I hadnt thunk of that, I got the same problem as everybody else ('cept i got some ET33 wheels!!) Nothing saying we couldnt retro fit the bottom thang, I've chopper thru the weld to un-Fordize 'em and weld ears to make them VW or whatever. If we got clever I could design in some neg camber at the same time, eh? But next up is getting material for the rear discs, strengthening arms and the toe adjusted picked up. Working on rear beams tommorrow. > > Grant Hughes > www.nocoastmotorsports.net > Denver, CO John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Hey John:
One suggestion is to add a soft rubber or fabric sleeve over the threads above the spring perch, inside the spring, like on the SAM coil overs off my car that I sent to you last year. I dunno if the 240 turbo rubber bellows will work with 50mm stuff. When I had to re-adjust the set of yours that came off Kevvie's car earlier this year, despite cleaning and blowing out the threads to prep for the adjustment, the fine threads still got crap stuck in them and almost seized up one of the spring perches. Maybe it's just the kind of dirt we have in Cali. I will need at least one replacement perch at this point. With the offset, do I see a sway bar clearance issues? Did you get my email about the yellow Tissot G2 242 possibly being up for sale in Ca this week? Cheers. ...Brian... |
Lurch Eric Burmeister Super Moderator Location: Michigan Join Date: 02/14/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 307 Rally Car: Mazdaspeed3 and Mazda Protege |
Hey John,
What kind of plating are you using on the top half of the struts if ya don't mind me askin'? Looks the same as the stuff that came on my Protrac struts. It seems quite durable, no? Asking because we want to plate some stuff for rally use and need something durable like that...not going into shock biz. Nice stuff!!! Lurch Eric Burmeister The west coast...of Michigan |
Tim Taylor Tim Taylor Elite Moderator Location: Oakland, CA Join Date: 02/02/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 622 Rally Car: Mazda 323 GTX |
Lurch Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Hey John, > > What kind of plating are you using on the top half > of the struts if ya don't mind me askin'? Looks > the same as the stuff that came on my Protrac > struts. It seems quite durable, no? > > Asking because we want to plate some stuff for > rally use and need something durable like > that...not going into shock biz. Lurch, You want iridescent chromate conversion ASTM-B633 more commonly known as "gold zinc plating". Make sure to spec. a min thickness of 0.0003" when you have it done. There is basically no difference in performance between clear and gold either. If you want to go wretched excess get the parts high sulphur electroless nickel plated. Better corrosion resistance, shiny :-), and no fear of hydrogen embrittlement like chrome plating. Tim |
eyesoreracing Dave Coleman Junior Moderator Location: Long Beach, CA Join Date: 05/13/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 448 Rally Car: Mazda3, SE-R Spec-V, 510 |
> And there's the reason for the offset mount---tire
> to spring clearance when you actually have springs > that have enough spring travel to match the strut > travel---something most here don't bother with. John, Cool idea, and I'm all for keeping the correct offset, especially on front-drivers, but it seems like there's a bit of a stress concentration at that offset. Have you considered a gusset, like my artistically rendered image here? Have any of these offset struts been out in the ugly world long enough to get broken? I'd be curious what breaks where... -Dave |
Doivi Clarkinen Banned Mod Moderator Location: the end of the universe Join Date: 02/12/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,432 Rally Car: 1980 Opel Ascona B |
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Tim Taylor Tim Taylor Elite Moderator Location: Oakland, CA Join Date: 02/02/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 622 Rally Car: Mazda 323 GTX |
eyesoreracing Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > > And there's the reason for the offset > mount---tire > > to spring clearance when you actually have > springs > > that have enough spring travel to match the > strut > > travel---something most here don't bother > with. > > John, > > Cool idea, and I'm all for keeping the correct > offset, especially on front-drivers, but it seems > like there's a bit of a stress concentration at > that offset. Have you considered a gusset, like my > artistically rendered image here? > -Dave Gussets are so version 2.0...here's the new shit: Designed for Volvo 240 but it can plug weld right into a Mazda 3 front knuckle after the stock strut tube is removed. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Tim Taylor Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > eyesoreracing Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > And there's the reason for the offset > > mount---tire > > > to spring clearance when you actually > have > > springs > > > that have enough spring travel to match > the > > strut > > > travel---something most here don't > bother > > with. > > > > John, > > > > Cool idea, and I'm all for keeping the > correct > > offset, especially on front-drivers, but it > seems > > like there's a bit of a stress concentration > at > > that offset. Have you considered a gusset, > like my > > artistically rendered image here? > > > -Dave > > Gussets are so version 2.0...here's the new shit: > > > > Designed for Volvo 240 but it can plug weld right > into a Mazda 3 front knuckle after the stock strut > tube is removed. Well really the list begins with Xratties, and of course Focus, and then there's Golf IV, and any "Old school" design where the strut tube is welded directly into the forging that the spindle is in. > John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
acrane adam crane Mega Moderator Location: Seattle, WA Join Date: 01/28/2006 Posts: 382 Rally Car: corolla GT-yes |
for "protection" take an old rain slicker, or better, that old gore-tex coat and chop the sleeve off.
you've got moisture protection, breath ability, and Velcro at the cuff to slide up or down at will. "I put the hurt on dirt" - adam crane http://CraneRallyCrew.com corolla gt-s "Patches" Op: S.S. |
slidewayswrx Patrick Darrow Senior Moderator Location: Portland OR Join Date: 12/30/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 379 Rally Car: Swedish John Deere |
So seriously, get me on the list for the next batch to come of the line!
I sent you a pm awhile ago john and haven't heard a peep back. I just can't stand to look anymore, I want my own! Shoot me a pm or email me at patdarrow@comcast.net So get back at me. Oh and hows the rear perch design coming along? That shit would be the bee's knees right there. -Pat, rock chucker in training. Zap zap my ass... |
alkun Albert Kun Godlike Moderator Location: SF Ca. Join Date: 01/07/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,732 Rally Car: volvo 242 |
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