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Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!

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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
September 26, 2015 01:08PM
C'mon ya haggis munchin son of a smitty. Details!
Did the entry fee go up compared to previous years?

Are the entry fees being raised due to the new spectator regulations that came from that MSA/government investigation in the last year or so?
Here are those recommendations for any interested:
https://www.msauk.org/assets/mesrrecs16sep-1.pdf

“Maybe rallying can never be completely safe for the competitor but for spectators there are some simple personal safeguards which you can follow so that you are not putting yourself at risk. I ask you, for your own sakes, please think where you watch from, do not take risks to get the best view or the best photo. Listen to the marshals and never argue with them. Follow paths that have been made for you and don’t please wander about in the stage and try and get out of the way just as a car is coming. I know you love our sport, and our sport would be nothing without you, but do not put yourself and our sport at risk. Use that British common sense!”
Ari Vatanen, 1981 World Rally Champion



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
September 29, 2015 06:17AM
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It's an unusual tactic, but cancelling rallies will save rally...




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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
September 29, 2015 06:26AM
Seriously though... It is human nature to assume that what happened last year will happen this year, and what happened this year will happen next year.

That's not true in rally, or really, much of anywhere else.

If there's a rally you want to do... do it now. There is no rally in the US that's guaranteed to happen next year. Most people don't keep track, but here in the US we cancel, oh, 3 to 6 rallies a year too. these tend to be smaller rallies... but not always.

And if you look at the rallies from 40 years ago... they're pretty much all gone or unrecognizable. So all "the biggest rallies of the year" ended up, at some point... not happening.

The solution hasn't really changed in all that time, I believe:

1) Volunteer. For most of you racers, volunteer a LOT more than you have, cause most of you don't volunteer at all.

2) Race when you can, and help other teams to get started. And don't upgrade to expensive fancy cars or tow vehicles. The vast majority of the people who have been in this sport a long time don't use either.

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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
October 22, 2015 06:45PM
Six years and no resolution to this thread yet?
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
October 22, 2015 09:47PM
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Six years and no resolution to this thread yet?

I thought you and RallyBrat were going to Save Rally!



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
October 30, 2015 10:12AM
360º Rally Spectating!!!




The tagline literally reads: "Avoid mosquitos and flying gravel while cheering on the Subaru Rally Team" - Nothing gets me excited about rally like not participating in rally at all...
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
October 30, 2015 11:00AM
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360º Rally Spectating!!!




The tagline literally reads: "Avoid mosquitos and flying gravel while cheering on the Subaru Rally Team" - Nothing gets me excited about rally like not participating in rally at all...



Just when I thought Subaru couldn't screw up U.S. rally more than they have in the past 15 years.

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen. That means it will gain traction in U.S. rally. Given the smart choices or the stupid choices since 1998 the stupid choices keep being used.

And so it goes........
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
October 30, 2015 11:42AM
Can someone explain what the purpose of the 360 videos is? They just did another one for LSPR. When I watch them they just make me sick. I'm guessing there is some fancy TV or goggles that you wear that makes this better?

Spending less money to build rally cars and more on fancy TV's and cameras will save rally!



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
October 30, 2015 12:23PM
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I'm guessing there is some fancy TV or goggles that you wear that makes this better?

If you watch them on your phone, the gimmick is it uses the gyro/accel and you can swivel around the phone to "look around".

If you zoom in closely - on one of the shots - you can actually see all the other teams leaving for Canada. eye rolling smiley
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
November 01, 2015 06:55AM
Be careful what you throw stones at. The person behind the 360 video is a grassroots rally competitor, the project was created in his basement. So money spent by Subaru on the 360 stuff leads to more entries in other events in the country. The technology is interesting and gives an interface to sport that has not existed before and is more consumable than a trip to the woods. This type of innovation should be encouraged.

If Anders had created this in his secret lair would the response be different?

While Subaru may be out spending everyone in the US that is not the fault of the 360 tech.
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
November 01, 2015 07:14AM
Unless the spectators have contributed to the rally by helping to pay the bills, who needs them? They get in the way, cause trouble and get hurt. Keeping them at home is better for everyone.
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
November 01, 2015 10:46AM
360 rally vids are so 2014.



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
November 01, 2015 01:42PM
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If Anders had created this in his secret lair would the response be different?

I can honestly say NO. I thought his Nook concept was never going to survive a rainy / dusty weekend in the woods, and don't get me started on rally solo. winking smiley smiling smiley

This is actually perfect fodder for this thread - Will 360 degree video "save" or even help rally? I see 250K views on it - and that's actually surprising. The Global RX one they did 7 months ago netted only 177K so far. Views don't tell how this is transferring into supporters, sponsors, and fans. The tech is the tech - and good for him for coming up with it and selling it to Suabru - but I don't think it's going to save rally.

I also say this after standing at a start holding a Nook in a bag - counting down competitors in a full on downpour. Will I be setting up 360 cams along the route - who knows?!
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
November 01, 2015 08:02PM
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If Anders had created this in his secret lair would the response be different?

Lairs in "dormant" volcanos will save rally!

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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
November 01, 2015 11:46PM
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360º Rally Spectating!!!




The tagline literally reads: "Avoid mosquitos and flying gravel while cheering on the Subaru Rally Team" - Nothing gets me excited about rally like not participating in rally at all...



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