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Tom B Wrote:
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> max attack results were:
> 1. #188 Havas/Pollard $1500
> 2. #42 Burmeister/Westrick Mazda Mazdaspeed3
> $1200
> 3. #649 Crane/Grahn Honda CRX $1000
> 4. #591 Cizmas/Himes Volkswagon GTI $800
> 5. #41 Hoche-Mong/Brandt Volkswagon GTI $500


This doesn't tell the whole story.

Cody was freakin' fast. He had a distributor crap on him and he lost a bunch of time or else he'd have beat me easily. He was attacking so maximally that Dave Cizmas took pity on him when he saw the bald tars on the wee Honda and gave him some of his own to continue his MaxAttack!

Havas was flying as usual. That guy just plain hauls.

I enjoyed being 2wd Santa Claus. Or at least one of the elves.

Michel, Jake told me after RWV last year: "You know which check I like handing out the most? That 6th place (we paid 6 places last year) one. It's always a guy who had troubles or just didn't think he did that great, but manages to hang in there for the finish."

Enjoy it, man.

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Lurch
Eric Burmeister
The west coast...of Michigan

john vanlandingham Wrote:
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>> >
> > The hintz brothers were saying it was a bad
> > quality header and they will be moving to a
> > different manufacturer.
>
> Name brands!! So the next guy can avoid junk, 3
> events in a row!!
> Why does you boys think they use cast iron on GOOD
> turbo manifolds???
>


Let me put this to rest right now. Hintz's header has only broken twice. Once at Doo Wops it broke right below the turbo. At the next event he did, Olympus, he used the stock manifold. For Oregon Trail Doug Chase repaired the broken header but this time it broke at one of the primaries. It wasn't a bad quality header, it was actually pretty good for the money but it's been on the car with header wrap and anti-lag for three years and it's just cooked at this point. The anti-lag puts a lot of heat into it and the stainless is getting crystallized and fatigued after all this time. To be fair, it was the slip together joints that I welded up with a mig welder (I didn't have a tig at the time) that broke. Kind of amazing they held up as long as they did. In fact, I recommended Dave get another one of those headers and have Doug or me tig weld the slip together joints and it would probably last a lot longer. And because it's pretty good and pretty cheap and worth 11 horsepower at the wheels on the dyno. It was also way more trouble proof for three years than the stock cast iron manifold was. So don't automatically assume the cast iron manifold is good. I could never keep that thing from warping and leaking.
Besides, the header sounds really cool.

Tom B Wrote:
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> my question, why did Mira and block enter the
> regional, then mysteriously bail out after
> completing all of the stages with good times, is
> that the PRO thing to do now?
>

As has been stated, ostensibly to not take trophies away from the local regional competitors. Wow, how magnanimous of them seeing as how they both got beat by a local regional competitor (Dave Hintz.)
Perhaps closer to the truth to avoid embarassment? Just sayin'...

Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
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> Tom B Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > my question, why did Mira and block enter
> the
> > regional, then mysteriously bail out after
> > completing all of the stages with good times,
> is
> > that the PRO thing to do now?
> >
>
> As has been stated, ostensibly to not take
> trophies away from the local regional competitors.
> Wow, how magnanimous of them seeing as how they
> both got beat by a local regional competitor (Dave
> Hintz.)
> Perhaps closer to the truth to avoid embarassment?
> Just sayin'...



Yeah, one was running for the first time in Open and taken 60hp away, basically running GrpN power, while ordered to finish because of a Rally he needs to run in 2 weeks time, 4000 miles away...and the other one was playing cards on the straightways with his codriver, because running a 3200lbs x 160 hp street car with a cage..Dude, don't write stuff if you don't know WTF you are talking about..just sayin'..
And to answer Tom's question, yes, the Regional trophies and show belong to the Regional guys and we didn't have any business in taking those away, so it was very entertaining for me in checking in early at time controls and just drive by the last one without even stopping..
Peace.
PS: well done to the MaxAttackers! last weekend, there is some really GOOD talent in many of them, really enjoyed starting in the back on Leg1 and watching them run the PIR stages..

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www.alexgelsomino.com

Jon Burke Wrote:
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> but GRANT.....
>
> "..........Dave Mirra observed, "This sport is
> amazing no matter what kind of car you're in. The
> cool thing is that you don't need to win to have a
> great time—finishing is winning because of all the
> elements you endure during a race."............."

I can agree with that. For your first year or two, or maybe even three as you learn how to drive. Maybe it's my competitiveness. I want to win, even though I know I can't win right now, but I can't make excuses about it being the car holding me back. And that is a good feeling to me. When I place 5th out of 10 I know it's because I sucked, not because my car doesn't have ________. Dave Kern's a great example of this. He built a really high spec, cool GTX. But he couldn't place that high in it because it just couldn't compete with the higher torque and fancy diffs/suspension of the top guys. So now he's probably 50K+ or so into his new Evo, making 362 whp on E85, and placed third in the last hill climb on stock suspension. His Ohlins just came in and he will likely win sometime soon. There's others here that are just as good of drivers as the top guys but are fighting for 5th or 6th place in class because they are in a $15K turbo Impreza.
In 2WD, the big battle for first and second was between a NA Golf and a Neon SRT4. The missing competitor, but record holder in 2WD for every hill climb was in a FWD turbo Eclipse with KYB GR2 suspension.

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Grant Hughes

Dave's car does sound awesome with that header.

brah brah brah pop pop pop brah brah brah pop pop pop BRAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH POP POP POP

(anti-lag is on...)

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

Hey Dave! where you been man? I miss seeing you around on the ol' board here...

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Michael LeCompte

The inquiry at the end of the event for 2WD pisses me off. I remember hearing some stories about some fucked up things that teams would do to try to improve their place or get competitive advantages by a certain now retired top AWD team and was disappointed to see this happen. Maybe it's a regular thing and I just don't read the boards often enough to see them.

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Grant Hughes

There's only a couple rules around here. So fix your profile dude.

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That way we know if you're some crusty retired old guy, or a clueless kid having wet car dreams, and can make fun of you accordingly. To edit your profile, sign in and click on "My Control Center" or just click here:

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Michael LeCompte

Dave Kern also dynoed something super low like 120-140hp out of a BPT in his mazda with a Dual BB garrett turbo. The tuning on that car was wack.

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Michael LeCompte

I never believe Dave when he states numbers. He tried to say his new car was only 300 hp, then later talking to Aaron, who was with him when it was on the dyno being tuned, tells me it was actually 362.
The GTX had a built 1.8 with a GT28RS, Link ECU, nice intercooler, free exhaust with no cat most of the time, dogbox, etc. It'd take a pretty incompetent tuner to get to 120-140 and a pretty amazing driver to do as well as he did in that car.

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Grant Hughes

Michael:

Flatovercrest is one half of the Gelsomino/Edstrom rally team, shown here running a regional in southern CA a few years ago:

http://www.motorsportmemories.com/gorman-05/pages/GelsominoIMG_8494web.htm

http://www.motorsportmemories.com/gorman-05/pages/GelsominoIMG_8459web.htm

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Self-righteous douche canoe

Thats the first time I have ever seen alex in the left seat.

Alex are you talking about a RWD to drive or ride in shouting orders?

Man what a rally. Was doing service for the 466 FX16 and after the first service all the teams around us started packing up. Because of the canceled stages I thought they had canceled a service and I wasn't aware of it. NOPE! They were all just going car fishing!

Brian and Josh finished and especially this weekend I think that is something they should be proud of. I kept waiting to use the big hammer but no mishaps, mechanically any ways.

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Zap zap my ass...

But he didn't post his real name. He should be stoned. Stoned I say!

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RichardM

flatovercrest Wrote:
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>>
> Yeah, one was running for the first time in Open
> and taken 60hp away, basically running GrpN power,
> while ordered to finish because of a Rally he
> needs to run in 2 weeks time, 4000 miles
> away...and the other one was playing cards on the
> straightways with his codriver, because running a
> 3200lbs x 160 hp street car with a cage..Dude,
> don't write stuff if you don't know WTF you are
> talking about..just sayin'..


Alex, Dude, I know exactly WTF I'm talking about. I was there, I know what cars you guys were running. Just trying to stir the pot, shake the tree, just sayin'. Guess it worked, I shook you out of lurker mode. Now we know you guys really do read Rally Anarchy. Don't be so thin skinned, we do a lot of ribbing around here, it just means we care.

Maybe I should instead say kudos to Dave Hintz for beating Ken Block while he was playing cards...