JVl Focus rear suspension and disc conversion

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darkknight9
This.

Just be mindful of your spindles depending on what year focus you have. I used to know which ones worked and which ones didn't...

Only spindle difference is the rears came with the 08' Coupe / sedan only redesign. To my knowledge all that changed was the bolt size for attaching the rear spindle to the trailing arm.

The fronts are a totally different matter. I can break it down the changes if you want but John is very focused on staying on topic with this thread.

John, I know what you're getting at, but I still find it funny that you're telling me that it doesn't make sense to get junkyard parts for the rear because the bolt pattern is wrong.

I'd forgotten about the 5 lug vs. 4 lug thing. The older S40s were 4 lug but they were also Mitsubishi based, not Ford based.

I wonder if it'd be worth the trouble to just hack the drum off and turn it into a hub. Probably as much fun as redrilling a Volvo hub for the correct bolt pattern. At least THESE bearings can be pressed out of the unit, unlike (apparently) the VW unit-bearing setups.

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Pete Remner
Cleveland, Ohio

1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing)
1978
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.

I was able to find a whole svt focus cheap and just swapped the whole rear sub frame out was a fairly easy process. There is a place in Wisconsin that specializes in focus and I know he sells full break kits off svt focus. Here is there web site if your interested http://speedwayrecyclers.com/.

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Pete
John, I know what you're getting at, but I still find it funny that you're telling me that it doesn't make sense to get junkyard parts for the rear because the bolt pattern is wrong.

I'd forgotten about the 5 lug vs. 4 lug thing. The older S40s were 4 lug but they were also Mitsubishi based, not Ford based.

I wonder if it'd be worth the trouble to just hack the drum off and turn it into a hub. Probably as much fun as redrilling a Volvo hub for the correct bolt pattern. At least THESE bearings can be pressed out of the unit, unlike (apparently) the VW unit-bearing setups.

Pete, lathe work is always easier than mill.
Just drag the tool over something any shape and eventually it'll be round..
Mill, you gotta wake up--(just made a jig yestarday for machining more of those "convert old school fixed strut into two bolt ear thangs" and then spent 4 hours milling....

And ferfuckssake of course junk yards are 1st choice.. But I have seen 1 set of rear disc brakes on a Fucked-us---that what Ford did.

Well now Erik has given us a contact number. Anybody call yet?
I'm a'gunna bet that with all the wannbe ricer Fucked-us Boys out there nationwide---hell 0.001% would still be thousands---I betcha they want a premium.

Somebody call..
Meanwhile Chris is 'spossed to scare up some drums of some sort to butcher.
The first ones I did went to those children "of exceptional driving ability" who flipped 3 times in 3 events, last on first gravel stage, and so that was wasted time and effort...

Thank goodness it didn't take more than 1 ciggie worth of time.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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ChrisKobi
Billy,
about a year and a half ago you could get the disc conversion from ford for about $1500. In my resent searches I was unable to find any.

Yeah that's what I thought. I remember it was a required part of the whole "Spec Focus" shenanagins back in the day where everything cost too much.

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Aaron Luptak

I was gonna say, I used to think that the $200+ that Honduh guys would charge for a disc conversion (that they pulled from the junkyard) was steep...

Shit, $100 gets you a complete rear disc swap on a Honda. Trailing arms, spindle, caliper, rotors, hub/bearing, pads! Although the calipers you might as well rebuild for $15 in seals at the least. Might as well go for fresh and non rusted to shit rotors.

I've seen ones where guys completely refurb the entire assembly for something like $250-$300 with all reman parts and such too.

What's so wrong with the drums in the rear? I am sure you can get a decent shoe for it.

So this is what is needed? Anybody have a similar picture for a drum setup?

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Grant Hughes

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NoCoast
What's so wrong with the drums in the rear? I am sure you can get a decent shoe for it.

So this is what is needed? Anybody have a similar picture for a drum setup?

They little tiny stuff, not like the truck brakes on the Xratty...And maybe there's shoes, but in my widdle Saab once the asbestoes was removed the shows would die in one hard night of driving.. The material would turn to rock...

What's wrong with making the drum into a hub and throwing a disc over it?

The thread isn't really about everybody ELSE'S opinion IF these guys SHOULD, its, "we're going to do this, who wants to come along?"

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Can you sandwich a caliper carrier behind the spindle?

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Grant Hughes

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NoCoast
Can you sandwich a caliper carrier behind the spindle?

Dead easy, maybe 10-15 bucks ea

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

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NoCoast
What's so wrong with the drums in the rear? I am sure you can get a decent shoe for it.

So this is what is needed? Anybody have a similar picture for a drum setup?

Hello Grant,

That is almost all of the parts. 2 are missing.

1. There is a small bracket that bolts to the trailing arm with the top suspension link that supports the brake line. You can see the groove on the protective cover just right of center on the one in your photo.

2. It is missing the e-brake cables if you would want to run them. The cables are different from the drum setup.

Also, if someone where to buy this or for John's Drum to conversion. The spindle nuts are made out of a bunch of stacked washers that have been banded together and threaded and are a one time use item. So they need to be replaced if you remove the hub from the spindle of either setup.

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rally864
I was able to find a whole svt focus cheap and just swapped the whole rear sub frame out was a fairly easy process. There is a place in Wisconsin that specializes in focus and I know he sells full break kits off svt focus. Here is there web site if your interested http://speedwayrecyclers.com/.

I'll try and give them a call today from work if I get a chance.

Here you go a full rear end with the brakes. Scroll down to the bottom of the first post.

http://forums.focaljet.com/power/669907-various-svt-parts.html

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Andrew_Frick
Here you go a full rear end with the brakes. Scroll down to the bottom of the first post.

http://forums.focaljet.com/power/669907-various-svt-parts.html

Can you kindly cut and paste the gawddam thing? The POS forum requires a log in bullshit and it's idiot trick question things is fucked up.

Oh and find 4 more sets.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

OEM parts were never designed to withstand rally, why “upgrade” to disposable bits?

John’s solution looks simple, strong and adjustable….a proper rally part.

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Andrew_Frick
Here you go a full rear end with the brakes. Scroll down to the bottom of the first post.

http://forums.focaljet.com/power/669907-various-svt-parts.html

Can you kindly cut and paste the gawddam thing? The POS forum requires a log in bullshit and it's idiot trick question things is fucked up.

Oh and find 4 more sets.

Sorry I did not know the for sale section required a login.

Here is the description I cut out all of the ricer parts:

Selling whats left of my Focus parts, since my comp orange SVT was totaled by some douche in a van.

All parts are in Dallas, TX

All prices do not include shipping or paypal fees.

email: blah4blah4blah (at) yahoo <dot> com

SVT Focus complete rear end assembly. With trailing arms (one new) and SVT brakes, with EBC Green stuff pads and Royal rotors. Springs and shocks NOT included.
SVT rear sway bar and SPC camber arms ARE included
Would ship on a pallet, via Uship.com estimate $125-150 shipping (possibly less)
Drop your rear end, install this. Easiest rear brake swap EVAR. $500