JVl Focus rear suspension and disc conversion

Here is the Ford pdf(with part #'s) for the SVT brake conversion kit.

I couldn't find the pdf for the rally brake conversion kit online...so
ignore the front brake part #'s,as they are for the larger SVT front brakes and aren't gravel wheel friendly..

But the rear part #'s are correct,and what you need if you are tracking down factory stuff at the dealers or junkyard...

Also has install pics/instructions and torque values at the bottom....

http://www.fordracingparts.com/download/instructionsheets/fordinstshtm-2300-zx3.pdf

I'm also interested in John's conversion(both rear brake and suspension) so I'll be watching this thread closely...

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Here you go a full rear end with the brakes. Scroll down to the bottom of the first post.

http://forums.focaljet.com/power/669907-various-svt-parts.html

Can you kindly cut and paste the gawddam thing? The POS forum requires a log in bullshit and it's idiot trick question things is fucked up.

Oh and find 4 more sets.

Sorry I did not know the for sale section required a login.

Here is the description I cut out all of the ricer parts:

Selling whats left of my Focus parts, since my comp orange SVT was totaled by some douche in a van.

All parts are in Dallas, TX

All prices do not include shipping or paypal fees.

email: blah4blah4blah (at) yahoo <dot> com

SVT Focus complete rear end assembly. With trailing arms (one new) and SVT brakes, with EBC Green stuff pads and Royal rotors. Springs and shocks NOT included.
SVT rear sway bar and SPC camber arms ARE included
Would ship on a pallet, via Uship.com estimate $125-150 shipping (possibly less)
Drop your rear end, install this. Easiest rear brake swap EVAR. $500

Andrew, is this yours? Also =, any word on that SVT airbox?

edited... Just realized this is from someone in Texas.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2013 06:48PM by ChrisKobi.

fawk $500 plus transport of a bunch of scrap..


All the ex-spurts said its wasy just find some, like Honda is only $100, WTF?

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I emailed this speedway salvage place today so I could copy the text and post here-below are my email and their response....seems relatively cheap,but maybe a smaller rotor than SVT?
Now I think I remember that there was more than one rear disc setup on the Foci over the years-but can't find that info now....

Speedway Salvage (parts@SpeedwayRecyclers.com)
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To: Mike BALL
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I have all of the parts off of a 2003 SE, they are not as big as the SVT brakes, but if you are not changing the fronts to SVT then they are the factory match for the existing front brakes you have.
Included would be all the hoses and lines, the E-Brake Cables, The spindles, the hubs and bearings. the dust shields and the brackets that hold the brake hoses to the trailing arms.
I get $250 for the package.
The calipers are used, may or may not be 100% functional, if nothing else you would have them for cores (about $60 per core charge) for remanned ones.
Thanks,
Matt

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From: Mike BALL
To: parts@speedwayrecyclers.com
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:19 PM
Subject: Focus rear disc conversion parts-all

Hello,
I have a 2004 Ford Focus ZX3 2.3l,5-spd manual.

It has the drum rear brakes.

I want to convert to rear disc brakes like SVT Focus(and some other focus models) had.

I'll need everything required to convert-rear hub/bearing/rotor caliper/mount ebrake setup etc. etc. etc.

Please quote me price/availability on all parts needed for conversion.

Thanks!

Mike Ball

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I thought I read that the SVT brakes wouldn't fit a 15inch rim, so the Speedway Salvage stuff might be the correct items.


On the other hand I rallied for years, won a few events with drum brakes in the back and somehow survived, and that was with RWD stuff. Just sayin...

We are working with John on the Focus Rear Suspension set-up and he requested I put up some pics with rough dimensions of the lateral links and trailing arms. Here they are:





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Rear Long Lateral Link: Approximately 19.5"
Forward Short Lateral Link: Approximately 9"
Trailing Arm: Approximately 14"

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I thought I read that the SVT brakes wouldn't fit a 15inch rim, so the Speedway Salvage stuff might be the correct items.


On the other hand I rallied for years, won a few events with drum brakes in the back and somehow survived, and that was with RWD stuff. Just sayin...

Vaguely recall you sayin sumpin about stick Rat-soon pickup axles in the cars?
Or was that just the diffs?

This shit is tiny Gene... and, ultimately, guys WANT disc brakes.
Why is in 2012 drum brakes being discussed? Why did some OEM drone accountant decide to make drum brakes?

Who care?
We discussing the easiest , cheapest way to get GOOD disc brakes on the rear, and good mens function and cheapest means easy availability.

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John..not saying the discs aren't a good thing but I doubt they would be worth big money on a FWD at rtegional levels. There are other things to worry about, like getting on stage. Now if it is cheap and easy then you know full well I'm a supporter.

My first few cars had drum brakes including the '73 510 that won several events here in the overall position (dinosaur days when we only had ..gasp..one class ) yes kiddies one class, run whatcha brung. Heck we (me and JV were brought up with black and white tv and crystal radios that were quite small with only one ear bud ) were subjected to all sorts of unimaginable things back in the day.

I went to rear discs as a function of the 200SX rear diff being a bolt in swap on a Gen2 510. Truck diffs (as low as 5:14 ?) were a drop in from the local wreckers. That was on the advise on NISMO who used to help with tech advise and parts for my car. Seems like some other nut job is always promoting low gear ratio wrecking yard stuff...

If YOU..JVL...can make a good, cheap, quickly available rear disc kit then good on ya and move full steam ahead. I'm actually pretty confident you can as your abilities are quite amazing somedays. BUT if it is a $1500 , search forever, wait forever then maybe a regional guy who should be worried about fun and seat time should just look into some good metallic shoes for the back.

Drum brakes still stop a majority of cars and trucks safely and effectively world wide so they aren't a total wash.

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I thought I read that the SVT brakes wouldn't fit a 15inch rim, so the Speedway Salvage stuff might be the correct items.


On the other hand I rallied for years, won a few events with drum brakes in the back and somehow survived, and that was with RWD stuff. Just sayin...

Gene,
It's the FRONT SVT brakes that don't fit the 15's.

Actually,for tarmac use and/or with spacers there are some that do, but for gravel we are not interested as it's super tight clearance.

With any Focus factory REAR disc setup there is plenty of 15" wheel clearance.

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John, you got my message right? I can't get the stuff you need till I figure out where my car will be until I move. I will figure it out soon before the end of the month. Moving on....

I found this diagram for the rear and just for my sake because I'm not great at knowing all the proper names of the parts. If you could point out what parts you will need (by number please) that would help me greatly! Go ahead laugh, I'm learnin K?

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Thanks, I thought I read sumthin and that makes total sense!

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I thought I read that the SVT brakes wouldn't fit a 15inch rim, so the Speedway Salvage stuff might be the correct items.


On the other hand I rallied for years, won a few events with drum brakes in the back and somehow survived, and that was with RWD stuff. Just sayin...

Gene,
It's the FRONT SVT brakes that don't fit the 15's.

Actually,for tarmac use and/or with spacers there are some that do, but for gravel we are not interested as it's super tight clearance.

With any Focus factory REAR disc setup there is plenty of 15" wheel clearance.

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I thought I read that the SVT brakes wouldn't fit a 15inch rim, so the Speedway Salvage stuff might be the correct items.


On the other hand I rallied for years, won a few events with drum brakes in the back and somehow survived, and that was with RWD stuff. Just sayin...

Gene,
It's the FRONT SVT brakes that don't fit the 15's.

Actually,for tarmac use and/or with spacers there are some that do, but for gravel we are not interested as it's super tight clearance.

With any Focus factory REAR disc setup there is plenty of 15" wheel clearance.

Dillion Van Way ran SVT fronts on his Focus with 15" team dynamics rims. I talked with Slocum about it and he said they had to grind some off of the caliper to make it fit inside the rim. But for the most part I don't see the point since once you switch to the SVT or '05+ front knuckle you can just bolt on the stock 05+ rotors and calipers and have plenty of wheel clearance for all 15" rims.

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I thought I read that the SVT brakes wouldn't fit a 15inch rim, so the Speedway Salvage stuff might be the correct items.


On the other hand I rallied for years, won a few events with drum brakes in the back and somehow survived, and that was with RWD stuff. Just sayin...

Svt fronts will not fit under a stock ford 15" rim. And if you run the svt rear brakes theys are about the same size as the standard zx3 fronts. I'm currently running the stock zx3 fronts with svt rears and don't seem to have any problems so far and braking seems adequate.

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Why is in 2012 drum brakes being discussed? Why did some OEM drone accountant decide to make drum brakes?

For a street car, they are basically immortal. Rear brakes go for something like 150-250k (miles!!) before they're worn out, nowadays.

Rear disks suck big donkey balls, always siezing up. Problem if you want to warranty them, not a problem for us.

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Why is in 2012 drum brakes being discussed? Why did some OEM drone accountant decide to make drum brakes?

For a street car, they are basically immortal. Rear brakes go for something like 150-250k (miles!!) before they're worn out, because the self adjusters always fuck up and after 5000-8000 miles they're not contacting the drum, then at 35-40000 the pistons in the wheel cylinders rust solid and once they don't move, miraculuously the shoes never wear out. nowadays.

Rear disks suck big donkey balls, always siezing up in the rust belt. Problem if you want to warranty them, not a problem for us.

Derp derp.

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