JVl Focus rear suspension and disc conversion

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john vanlandingham

Why would anybody want something better-er than this?

Hey John, nice job cutting down the drum. Are you planing on attaching the caliper mount to the spindle or the trailing arm?

Now in fairness to the stock stuff, and I am not saying it is in any way "strong", and if I understand you design correctly. Would not your stuff would behave the same way in that test just without the spring action? Because of the rod ends you were going to put in it. Have you changed the design?

Also, that arm will never really see a load like that. All of sideways force would be taken up by the 3 links that attach to the knuckle area.

Any updates on the brakes-John?

And I see the guys posting link dimensions for you in this thraed-you making more links for the rears soon?

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Any updates on the brakes-John?

And I see the guys posting link dimensions for you in this thraed-you making more links for the rears soon?

No I've been welding welding welding sanding welding welding sanding, and now I's outta ciggies pooooooooooooooooooooooooor me...(sniffle)

I went and picked up dis stuff, time for soembody local who wants somma dis stuffs to come up with a Golf II or III caliper..maybe robert Gobright has one that somebody local who wants some of this stuff knows well...
(There's only one me and i gotta try and fill existing orders and i gotta weld---25 Supra into Xratty kits. 1st operation done---after running out of gas and then wire---lucky for me I just happened to pick up a 33lb spool and fresh bottle yesterday about quarter to 5.)

But when I got this crap welded, yes I will..
Links can be separate from coilovers...

But for the brakes I need people to pitch in with some effort...low skill, low thought go pick up a caliper type effort.

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John Vanlandingham
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John,
Have you figured how you are going to cut trailing arm? Where/who is the place that sells the material you were going to use to fab up the rear lower arm, front lower arm and upper arm? And whats it called? this way I can get them ordered.

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ChrisKobi
John,
Have you figured how you are going to cut trailing arm? Where/who is the place that sells the material you were going to use to fab up the rear lower arm, front lower arm and upper arm? And whats it called? this way I can get them ordered.

I'll order in that junk, I can do it while being here for my girls. I can't drag them around looking for cheap calipers

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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John, I'll hunt down some inexpensive, easy to find calipers and send them out to you. VW Golf II or Golf III is what you have in mind?

Eric Jones
Kinetic Motorworks

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Guvernor Eric Jones
Kinetic Motorworks
313 Kent Farm Road
Hamptead, NH 03841
1-603-329-6083
www.kineticmotorworks.com

John, is this pretty much what you're looking for? Please see attached pic.

Eric Jones
Kinetic Motorworks

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Guvernor Eric Jones
Kinetic Motorworks
313 Kent Farm Road
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1-603-329-6083
www.kineticmotorworks.com

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kinetic
John, is this pretty much what you're looking for? Please see attached pic.

Eric Jones
Kinetic Motorworks

Yep, along with the "frame" part.. It would be really nice to have some NEW---or any quality, just clean flat PADS

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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John, do you mean the caliper bracket?

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Guvernor Eric Jones
Kinetic Motorworks
313 Kent Farm Road
Hamptead, NH 03841
1-603-329-6083
www.kineticmotorworks.com

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kinetic
John, do you mean the caliper bracket?

yep

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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OK, will be sending some your way... probably a week away with the coast to coast shipping

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Guvernor Eric Jones
Kinetic Motorworks
313 Kent Farm Road
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1-603-329-6083
www.kineticmotorworks.com

Why the fascination with the VW caliper? I checked the price difference, and stock Focus is the same as veedub on RockAuto. Usually if it's on rallyanarchy, it's all about price.

I think the idea of the VW caliper was based on size more than cost. My impression is that we were trying to fit a lot in a finite amount of space. We're fitting in the Coilover, suspension arms, hopefully camber adjustment, caliper, caliper bracket,etc. In the end a Focus one may work just fine, that's why this is a development project until we come up with something workable (and hopefully inexpensive)

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Guvernor Eric Jones
Kinetic Motorworks
313 Kent Farm Road
Hamptead, NH 03841
1-603-329-6083
www.kineticmotorworks.com

It's the shallow hats in production discs since the fad of having flat outer wheel faces swept the world.

If everything has flattish hats, then we'ze gotta
a)go for modern slidey pin type calipers cause there's just the "claw" and pad outboard.

b) face financial ruin buying really bitchin real rally wheels which swoop in to the hub in the last moment to clean nice calipers of the tradition saddle type with the pad AND THE PISTON outboard.. and they stick out.

So we can't use my default gravel rear: 2 x 1.5" pistons Volvo 240 rear. Nice big pad, huge choice of compounds cause its same pad as 911 front up to 1974

So we look for something first, correctly sized piston, second EASY TO FIND ANYWHERE even at the junk-yard which is some peoples first choice.

Thus VW Golf..

Just lucky the hose/pipe connections are the same Euro Metric--(din't stink of that didya?)

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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John's Focus suspenders came in and we mounted them up. Check out the travel on those suckers...

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Guvernor Eric Jones
Kinetic Motorworks
313 Kent Farm Road
Hamptead, NH 03841
1-603-329-6083
www.kineticmotorworks.com