VW MK2 GTI suspension upgrade/questions

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Kristof
I would like to discuss what is the best upgrade from stock to "rally ready" suspension for VW MK2 (Gravel set up).

Thank you.

Forgot: http://www.sellholm.se/

Who could forget Sellholm Herr von Kessler. Obviously that's a brilliant choice because he makes virtually identical stuff---he is the person who advised me to begin making my stuff*----for approximately double the cost per unit and 5-8 times the freight..

Excellent choice---most people have far too much money laying around and the decision on where to put it just where they can walk in their rooms and maybe see the floor is a hard choice...


* Sellholm, in response to me asking the weight---him saying don't worry we just throw it on the truck and it's there in a day, and me suggesting that diesels don't like getting water in them...like when the truck drives off the end of the pier in Gotrborg and splashes into the North Sea its gonna get water in it.
He asked "where you calling from?

Me "ever hear of Sleezattle?"

Him "Yeah I have relatives there"

"That's where I'm calling from"

Him" But you're a machinist aren't you? Don't buy my stuff and fly it there! Just make it. Why pay frieght for steel? If you have problems getting the inserts you want, call me then but make the rest..."


Now Wilson, knowing that there is a virtually IDENTICAL PRODUCT from a close source,
do you think it is realistic to suggest Sellhom knowing the cost is more that double---and then the airfreight, customs, customs brokerage charges?
Particularly when he suggested it was smarter to make things here?

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Forgot: http://www.sellholm.se/

Who could forget Sellholm Herr von Kessler. Obviously that's a brilliant choice

John, I'm just trying to get Kristof to understand the world of available rally suspension to him, from HotBits to ProFlex, DMS to KYB, Monroe to JVAB. And if I can have a little fun chapping you while doing it, why shouldn't I?

Your fiend,

Wilson

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Forgot: http://www.sellholm.se/

Who could forget Sellholm Herr von Kessler. Obviously that's a brilliant choice

John, I'm just trying to get Kristof to understand the world of available rally suspension to him, from HotBits to ProFlex, DMS to KYB, Monroe to JVAB. And if I can have a little fun chapping you while doing it, why shouldn't I?

Your fiend,

Wilson

Der grosse problem genoss Herr advocat is the kleine chance that somebody might listen to you...

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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What do you think of this:
http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_II--8v/Suspension/Coilovers/ES4969/

By the way what does this mean:
"Up to Vin #T 070 449, split is in model year 1996" and why?


compared to JVAB stuff.

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Kristof
What do you think of this:
http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_II--8v/Suspension/Coilovers/ES4969/

By the way what does this mean:
"Up to Vin #T 070 449, split is in model year 1996" and why?


compared to JVAB stuff.

Average lowering of +1"-1.0"F +1.0"-1.0"R
H&R Street Performance Coil Over
Unrivaled comfort performance
Fully threaded shock body for adjustable vehicle lowering


No mention of what the guts are, what the travel is.

Street car tuner stuff. I think this is to go Hella Flush, but not all the way to Stance.

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Kristof
What do you think of this:
http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_II--8v/Suspension/Coilovers/ES4969/

By the way what does this mean:
"Up to Vin #T 070 449, split is in model year 1996" and why?


compared to JVAB stuff.

Average lowering of +1"-1.0"F +1.0"-1.0"R
H&R Street Performance Coil Over
Unrivaled comfort performance
Fully threaded shock body for adjustable vehicle lowering


No mention of what the guts are, what the travel is.

Street car tuner stuff. I think this is to go Hella Flush, but not all the way to Stance.

Yeah, thought so.

I plan on getting JVAB with Subaru top mounts.

Tubular control arms, maybe. But castor adjustments in the control arms is the way to go I think.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2013 11:09PM by Kristof.

John, have you made any set ups for a mk2 scirocco? What about a audi quattro 4000 ?

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John, have you made any set ups for a mk2 scirocco? What about a audi quattro 4000 ?

Isn't MkII Scirocco same as MkI Golf aka Rare-bit? Yeah 99% certain it is.

And 4000 Quattro--yes did one sent and literally in the middle of 2, soon to be 3 more.

What you doing?

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Does anyone currently make MK2/3 tubular control arms?

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Isn't MkII Scirocco same as MkI Golf aka Rare-bit?

Yes.

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Self-righteous douche canoe

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Does anyone currently make MK2/3 tubular control arms?

Coming back out Eric?

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Does anyone currently make MK2/3 tubular control arms?

Coming back out Eric?

I've just started making a jig to make front control arms (passat length) for MK2/3, but if they're currently available anywhere, I'd just like to know more before proceeding.

If I build a car for myself, right now I think I'd build my current street car (BMW 318ti with S50 motor) into a Dave Kern/ Grant Hughes emulator.

Does anyone know of a source for front tubular a-arms for MK2/3?

I thought I remembered seeing some wimpy stuff for a MK2 a while ago, but it was for the "stance" market, didn't look strong enough for rally use.


I see this for MK4, but not the older cars.

https://www.innfab.com/store.html#!/~/product/category=0&id=21595737

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I thought I remembered seeing some wimpy stuff for a MK2 a while ago, but it was for the "stance" market, didn't look strong enough for rally use.


I see this for MK4, but not the older cars.

https://www.innfab.com/store.html#!/~/product/category=0&id=21595737

Horribly horrible design.. If who ever fabbed these doesn't understand such a basic concept that jumped right out, then they can't very likely have tought any higher concepts out..
"Gusset' on centerline like : O-- is asking for failure if that design sees force going thisaway------>
It is a very common fault, but it IS a catastrophe waiting to occur..
I guess my personal feeling when i see a fancy web-site and fade in and lots of black background---I know somebody is making poor decisions.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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