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What did you do on the rally car today?

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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 13, 2006 03:44PM
Finished welding main hoop, half lateral bars, and upper bars. Pretty much everything up high.

Welded on first bracket to STA for rear suspension. Will finish tonight so we can get the car out of the garage (with no rear brakes) so we can do the basic four point on two other cars before Moody leaves for worldwide trip. Decided to sell Tig welder to get quality Mig instead. More versatile and won't really need Tig once the top tubes are welded. Willing to sacrafice ability to weld Aluminum for versatility. Need to box and send tranny crossmembers (unwelded) back to JVAB. I'm not going to get them done.

Also figured out all the final math for parts needing machined for rear disc brakes. Have to make some decisions about the exact route I want to go.

Wishing I'd never started building a rally car nor that I had spent $10K so far buying parts. I'm too far in to quit but I'm really fucking over it right now. The building a car part, not rally. I enjoy it, but it's such a big fucking project. I probably have 1000 hours to work and $3000 to spend yet. And I have no time or extra money right now.



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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 13, 2006 05:19PM
NoCoast Wrote:
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> Wishing I'd never started building a rally car
> nor that I had spent $10K so far buying parts.
> I'm too far in to quit but I'm really fucking over
> it right now. The building a car part, not rally.
> I enjoy it, but it's such a big fucking project.
> I probably have 1000 hours to work and $3000 to
> spend yet. And I have no time or extra money
> right now.

lol, get in line. First person who shows up with $5000 can walk off with my car and half its parts. Grad school isn't getting any cheaper...

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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 14, 2006 12:25AM
Luckily I get paid to go to grad school. Of course, that doesn't help with my motivation any.



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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 14, 2006 09:51AM
And if you think you've got $3,000 left to spend you've really got $6,000 + ask me how I know :-(

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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 14, 2006 10:50AM
Wow, I hear you guys!
You get to a point where you're in a for a penny, in for a pound and you just have to suck it up if you can. Many's the time I have wished I never started building this friggin Subaru but then I always remembered I have SO much into it that I can't stop. I've also had the fact that I haven't rallied in 5 years now! Fuck! I looked at maybe buying a pre-built G2 car to go out and play with, then thought that the cash used to buy and play could go into the Subie.

I finally reached a point about a few months ago when I realized that "I" was NEVER going to finish it, so decided to send it out to someone who knew what they were doing. It had sat at my shop with not much progress for so long, a move had to happen. I'll deal with the bills later!

Now it's looking like there is light at the end of the longest tunnel I have ever been in. It's a disease guys!
Stick in there fellas, you'll make it!



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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 14, 2006 11:47AM
My carbs came in yesterday. But I guess I was wrong and they're only 36mm. Bleh! Back on ebay for those guys! Now I'm looking at some mikuni tm40's off of ski doos.

Anyone know if those would work on a 4 stroke?
They have some oil injection cable, can I just not use that? Block it off or something.
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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 14, 2006 08:07PM
I hope you don't get the Mikunis with the reeds in them cause they won't work.
Will you please find 45 DCOE Webers ? Please ?



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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 14, 2006 11:18PM
Fuck. Find Aaron McConnell. He's got a set of 45 Webers sitting unused at his house. Probably a message through specialstage or to him at aaronjmcconnell at aol would work to email him.



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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 15, 2006 06:33AM
I'll message Aaron and see what he wants for them, but unless theys cheap cheap cheap they're probably out of my price range.

sagsert Wrote:
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> I hope you don't get the Mikunis with the reeds in
> them cause they won't work.
> Will you please find 45 DCOE Webers ? Please ?

The problem with the webers is that its like $400 for a set, then I gotta get a manifold for $200, linkage for $100, and jets and chokes and needles for who knows.
With bike carbs I'd just need the carbs, ~$100 and then lots of monkeying with jets, maybe $200 max there. So at $300 vs $700+, my choice is clear.

Which mikunis have reeds in them?
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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 15, 2006 09:27AM
This week is rear axle week. Visited a salvage yard that was new to me; nice guys. Let me pull a 27 spline 2WD axle shaft to see if it fit the splines of my LSD diff; it didn't so that was good to find out before hauling the thing 40 miles home and then finding it out. Found that the 30 spline 4WD axle shafts worked and they had one so ended up hauling it home and am in the process of cleaning, diassembly, and starting the mods for the new rear suspension. This is an 8" Toyota p-u-truck rear axle, early 80's vintage that has a narrower wheelbase (55" flange-to-flange). Looks like it will work A-OK. We should have a 4-link system in place in another couple of weeks.

We're waiting on roall cage tubes to be delivered and shocks are 'in the mill'.

Hey, I read the comments on how long and how much this can cost in time and $$. Keep your chins up guys; it'll be a real rewarding feeling when you get to the end, and the learning will help you long term in rallying. I'm trying to get this Opel done fast enoguh so that I don't think too much about the $$! Problem is that work keeps getting in the way!

Hey Carl, I am going to write Aaron too on the 45's but I'll give you first dibs; hope you don't mind.

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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 15, 2006 11:27AM
Well I found this diagram of a mikuni tm series carb: http://www.sudco.com/Diagrams323728/exptm.gif
I dont see any reed valves, so maybe those will work.

The weber 45's will probably be too 'spenive for me even if he wants to get rid of them cheap.
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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 26, 2006 06:23PM
We've spent the past two weeks reinforcing, seam welding and plating.

Sills had some more rot that we expected, so we jumped in and have started surgery. Should be done in a week or so.

After we get it all done topside, we'll put it on the rotisserie and start on the botom side.

I have to say that Ford used some serious steel in these cars! Much nicer to weld on one of these than a Subaru! :-)

I need some info about using the stock engine. What should I do internally? It's on a stand and begging to be torn apart! Or should I use differnt engine? Trying to save money.

So far all I spent on the car is time and money on steel. Tubing bender for the cage will be ordered in the next week or so and will be converted to hydraulic operation.

This car is going to be a tank, and I just hope I can get the rear end to hook up enough to get it up to speed! ;-)

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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 26, 2006 11:05PM
John Cassidy Wrote:
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> We've spent the past two weeks reinforcing, seam
> welding and plating.
>
> Sills had some more rot that we expected, so we
> jumped in and have started surgery. Should be
> done in a week or so.

Yeah, there's always some lurkin. Fawkin rust!
>
> After we get it all done topside, we'll put it on
> the rotisserie and start on the botom side.
>
> I have to say that Ford used some serious steel in
> these cars! Much nicer to weld on one of these
> than a Subaru! :-)

Hey you should see the floor and sill thickness in my old Saab.
Makes the Xratties seem like old carbon paper.
And I alweays say about the Sub-a-rats: look around, you don't see a lot of old foil wrappers from like candy and inside the ciggie boxes laying around cause the japanese tell all the thousands of cutie college girls they send over to pick up any candy wrappers and to use their childhood lessons in Origami to fold the foil into cute shapes which are Subaru panels.



>
> I need some info about using the stock engine.
> What should I do internally? It's on a stand and
> begging to be torn apart! Or should I use
> differnt engine? Trying to save money.

Save money, call me and we'll talk. I babysit every day till 1.30 Paciic time call and we can talk fast.
You want to keep the 2,3 and get a Cosworth tubine housing, and an intercooler, cut and rotate the upper half of the intake manifold, that's about it.

>
> So far all I spent on the car is time and money on
> steel. Tubing bender for the cage will be ordered
> in the next week or so and will be converted to
> hydraulic operation.
>
> This car is going to be a tank, and I just hope I
> can get the rear end to hook up enough to get it
> up to speed! ;-)

Don't worry, it hook up pretty good with the nice gentle motor.
Do the Cossie turbine housing and the right T5/toyota diff and thing thing will be quicker than restricted Subies.
>
> Cheers! John
>
Call.
>
>






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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 26, 2006 11:14PM
If the engine is under 100k and runs decent, I'd intercool it and call it good. If you're feeling ambitious, do a headgasket for fun and check the bores, if the engine has been sitting a while, maybe valve seals, since they like to dry out and make the thing smoke a bit on startup. The 2.3 turbo is pretty overbuilt, although not quite to the ridiculous degree of those Volvo units.

I've always been one to just go dig another running engine out of the pile rather than fix one that broke. But now my pile of functional 2.3 turbos is down to a 46k mile stock unit that's going in my black street car and a 173k miler that ran "unlimited boost" in Fiasco, NER's least favorite former rallycross car. So it's getting time to actually build something instead of swapping parts.




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Re: What did you do on the rally car today?
November 27, 2006 12:28AM
AAAAaaaaaaaaaaawww shit Andrew,
I'll give you a nice low miles 2300 bottom end if you drive the 96 out!!
You can carry back a buncha stuff for John.



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